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HI Folks Is The Year 1854? Is This Stamp USA #11?

 
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Posted 01/01/2016   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add duncanvr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Please see if anyone can id the year and the stamp. Thanks





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Posted 01/01/2016   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is Scott #11, probably plate position 10R7, "Gash on Shoulder" variety, almost certainly used in 1856 or 1857 (definitely not earlier). Nice margins!
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Posted 01/01/2016   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like an 11, though I`m no expert.
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Posted 01/02/2016   03:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is a "Gash on Shoulder" variety? I was trying to read the year on the postmark, maybe its 1856 then?
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Posted 01/02/2016   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was the year identified on postmarks at this time?
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Posted 01/02/2016   09:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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What is a "Gash on Shoulder" variety? I was trying to read the year on the postmark, maybe its 1856 then?

The "Gash on Shoulder" resulted from damage to the transfer roll used to make impressions on the printing plate. It is the curved line on the top of the button on Washington's shoulder. This is also known as relief C, and it appears on more than 80 of the 2600 total 3-cent imperforate positions.

Plate 7 wasn't put to use until about February of 1856. Philadelphia switched from blue to black cancel ink on about January 14th, 1854.

At the bottom of the postmark, where it looks like "1854," is Pa (Pennsylvania).

http://www.uspcs.org/the-1851-1860-...t-10-and-11/
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Posted 01/02/2016   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Was the year identified on postmarks at this time?

Year dates in the postmark are known for all years of the 1851 to 1857 3-cent imperforate issue. 1857 year-date postmarks are pretty common on #11, but not #11A. Catalog premiums start to rise significantly for year dates of 1855 and earlier.

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Posted 01/02/2016   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is no year in the postmark on the first stamp.
It reads "Philadelphia Pa" and "Mar 18"

I don't have the references to tell you what years that particular postmark was in use, but there is no year date to discern from the postmark, itself. You can probably find a copy of the reference on Philadelphia postmarks if you dig a bit. (A Catalog of Philadelphia Postmarks 18th Century to the Present, by Tom Clarke)
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Posted 01/02/2016   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like May 19 to me.

Thanks for the Clarke reference.
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Post-1857 year-date postmarks are known on the 1851 to 1857 3-cent imperforates. Here are 1858 and 1859 examples from Janesville, Wisconsin and Montpelier, Vermont:

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Posted 01/02/2016   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It looks like May 19 to me.


You're right.
I was thinking more about the Philadelphia Pa and the reference, and barely gave a glance at the center, other than to note that there was no year date.

Good luck tracking down the books.
C.
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Posted 01/02/2016   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all, fantastic infos. I can now see as per stated in replies the bottom of the CDS is PA and not a year marking. Here is the link to the item its now on sale with a couple of other washingtons

http://www.ebay.com/itm/c1856-USA-C...STRK:MESE:IT

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