Vending Stamps-Please Help

Hello to all. Recently,I purchased these shermack stamps,however, not sure what colors would be considered for the 2 individual imperforated stamps. Both are a deep red color than a carmine color.The 1st, Shermack imperforated type 3, and the second is a mail o meter,possibly type 4, hyper holes only on one side.Could these stamp be from imperforated sheets that was printed by experimental plates? Usually on Shermacks or mail o meters have both hyperholes on vertical sides, however, not with appearance of these specific imperforated stamps.Both with such beautiful deep red colors.The first one may been part cut from of a pair, but the mail o meter does not seem to be the same, because hyperholes would be on left side as well.I am not sure if this mail o meter may be scarce.

The last appears to be a Shermack type3,carmine, Type 1?
Any assistance would truly be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Warm regards,
Blazenstar

Hi Blazenstar. The stamps you show are pretty, and for a great flowchart as to how to identify the types, go to http://stampsmarter.com . These charts are brand new, and really helpful!
As for the perforations, these are very often just slightly mis-perforated. If you look at the last pair, it is also perforated a little bit into the design! Hope this helps?

Peter

Nice to see you again, Peter..Thank you for your kind words..excellent reference site..I like the different information on publications they provide on the site.

Oh my..I just saw something..I am amazed..you know I like looking at the auction houses catalogues including looking at P.F data base about previous certs. ..Please look at the 2011 rarities of the world cat. from Siegels.#112. They refer as deep rose and looks like the same color for Shermack with line cancellations...one of only 41 recorded. Can this be true? You should see how much I am smiling at the moment..
I believe these stamps may need to be certified to make sure genuine... eventhough sold to me from stamp show in my area.
Thanks again!
Blazenstar

Blazenstar, I hope you're right! I would certainly have it certified if I were you.

Peter

Not necessarily so. The perf holes on the mail-o-meter typeIV right side are off center and into the design. As far off as they are on the right side is as far off as they would be on the left side before it was cut with scissors.

what would make the spacing different ?
These are just irregular trimmed.
Nothing special.

Thank you, Kevin for your comment, however, I am going to follow up about cert, especially for the first one. I agree with Peter.
I don't believe it would be a wasted effort to make sure genuine and have written certification.

The cost of certification far outweighs the value of the stamps. The two single stamps were used in a stamp affixing machine. The roll of stamps was out of alignment causing the stamps to be miss-cut when affixed to an envelope. The Deep Rose stamp you are referring to is a #482A. You do not have a #482A. Check the PF certificate data base and you will see what a #482A look like. The toga rope and button are very strong (among other characteristics) and I do not see that in your scans. You can also look at #500--same design characteristics as the #482A. #500 is the perforated and #482A is the unperforated type Ia. All #482A stamps known are Schermack Type-III perforated.

After reviewing the update census of the zoellner cat link in the description of stamp from post Siegel's auction , can see the philatelic foundation has certified different ones to determine genuine. Interesting is that shows photo in the listing of perf. in design as well.
Like expressed, best to get check. Would be wonderful if considered a rarity and genuine.

I wish they were scarce but unfortunately the are quite common. Here are a few I plucked out just to show how easy these are to find with 1 side cut off.

Gentleman..Would you have expressed same with the stamps they have certified in past for auction? The photos are shown with different shumacks, including seen one with faults.

No, simply because the people at Siegel do this for a living so they know when a stamp has value and when it doesn't. Also to remove most of the doubt when trying to determine W/F's a high resolution scan helps.

blazenstar, do you believe your stamp might be a 482A? With a better scanned image like stallzers ^^^, folks here could probably assist you.

It is a shermack type 3 which is the first one of the photo's displayed. Beautiful stamp stalled!

Blazenstar, as stampcrow asked do you believe it to be a Scott 482A which is a Type 1a design with Schermack type 3 perforations? The listing for a 482A in Scott specialized is Deep rose as compared to a Scott 482 Type 1 design with Schermack type 3 perforations which is listed as carmine.

The stamp in the 2011 Rarities catalog is specifically 2c Deep Rose, Ty. Ia, Imperforate (482A). There is certainly a chance that is the stamp you have, but not likely. With a nice scan, people here would be happy to ID your stamp.

I see stallzer beat me to the punch. There are small differences between these Washington/Franklins that are hard to determine without a high res scan.