409-Paste Up Coil Pair Stamps

Hi everyone..These two vertical coil stamps appear to be carmine type 1. (409)paste up stamps. I was informed that paste up stamps were sold for vending machines,but not in demand when first produced. Then rouletted with tracing wheels and sold over counter with official approval from Post Office Dept in l915. Does Scott have a specific listing number for these paste up stamps? It is written except for one full sheet of 400 of each value,all where cut into panes of 100 before being rouletted and sold.
They are very beautiful coil pair and unsure if they may be scarce or common ect.

Anyone have information about them? I have not come across before so not sure if in demand with collectors. Any assistance would truly be appreciated.Thank you.

Warm Regards,
Blazenstar

Blazenstar, I do not believe there is such a thing as a "paste-up stamp".
A "paste up" coil pair is where two rolls of paper have been "pasted" together to make a continuous roll.
Specialist collectors sometimes collect "paste-up pairs" as an oddity, but I do not believe Scott lists them.
In my own collection I have some "paste-up strips" of the modern Transportation Coils.

Peter

The US Specialized catalog lists these imperforate coil stamps just after the Vending coil section.
409V, paste up pair has a CV=$7 in the 2011 edition.
Blazenstar, have you acquired a copy of the US Specialized catalog yet?

yes, John...thank you. I wasn't sure if it was the 409 under vending machine since did not have the wheel markings,although vending machine company.I read there are two types known...one for flat plates and other for rotary stamps..the rotary are considered the oddities, most are known as flat plates..Are these considered what are written as the Kansas City Roulettes ?

NO...it is a #409V.
There is NO rouletting (perfs) here.

I was looking under Scott 1980 US cat with United Nations which has section for vending and machine affixing stamps, and specifies on issue for 1912, but not specifically a photo like with perforations and types.

Roulettes such as the Kansas City Roulettes are a separate story from the coil pair you show. The roulette story you relate above is mostly incorrect. Others who have the correct story at hand will have to share it. Too busy with other projects tonight.

i know kevin..no roulettes perfs, however, according to Scott's, it expresses except for one full sheet of 400 of each value, all were cut into panes of 100 BEFORE being rouletted and sold. They were specifically known as Kansas City Roulettes.Is the photo display the appearance?
The post office at Kansas City in l914 had on hand a stock of imperforated sheets of 400 of stamps No. 408 and 409 for use in vending machines, but then not in demand. They were not officially rouletted until l915.

I read a briefing with Scott S. stamps pertaining to paste ups. He expressed paste up pairs on rotaries are much rarer and not listed in scotts, including ones with plate numbers. The other factual information about sheets was provided by Scotts in cat.book.

I was wondering if these are what the appearance were sold in K.City which had the hand in stock of imperforated sheets of 400 of stamps formally sold for vending machines. They are imperforated including being 409's as shown in display.

What the???

It may not be worth much, but interesting factual information about paste ups. The vendor at stamp show expressed briefly alittle history about their usage with vending machines too.

Blazenstar, please read all the answers you have gotten. Somebody by the name of John Becker gave you the answer.
It could not be any clearer!

Peter

It is written in the Scott's cat. It expresses the following," In December 1914, the Post Office at Kansas City, Missouri, had on hand a stock of imperforated sheets of 400 of stamps Nos. 408 and 409, formally sold for use in vending machines, but not then in demand. In order to make them salable, they were rouletted with ordinary tracing wheels and were sold over the counter with official approval of the post office Department given January 5, l915. These stamps were sold until supply was exhausted."
They were cut into panes of 100 BEFORE being roulette.

Here's an example of a rouletted stamp, note the edges are not smooth like your stamps;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Sc-TA17...AOSwFNZWuOuv

Peter..I showed you exactly what was written in Scotts about the 409 It was Post Office in K.C. had stock of the "imperforated" sheets of 400 stamps that were formally sold for use in vending machines. I know the imperforated paste ups (409) flat plate coils displayed were used in vending machines. He was expressing that information was incorrect. If Mr. Becker has other information, would be interesting to read about it.