I Think I May Have Stumbled Upon A 482A...

Hello all, my wife and I inherited a collection from my father in law and I found this to be interesting...any thoughts? I have been doing a bit of research on my own and thought it best to ask some experts.

Hi whatsup, and a very welcome to this forum. Nice stamp although badly damaged. Have you tried to identify your stamp by going to http://stampsmarter.com ?

Peter

Peter, I just did and I am still seeing a Scott #482A, a reasonably rare stamp if I am reading everything correctly.

Chuck

If there is a single-line watermark, its a #409 w/Schermack T-III Private perforations. If no watermark, its a #482. Some references for you to check into.

https://siegelauctions.com/display_...s.php?id=217
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...lledfrom=lkp
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...1_03main.htm

Color is very important. Do you have a Deep Rose? You should scan side-by-side with several Carmine, and you will probably see the difference. Good luck with the watermark check and the other Type 1a features.

Hello watsupchuk,
Unfortunately, your stamp is NOT type Ia.

I myself have a similar stamp that lead me to a similar line of questioning that you have now.

The characteristics of the toga rope and button of your stamp are definitely NOT type Ia.

Without education of how to identify type Ia stamps, it is very easy to not be able to identify that any particular stamp is NOT type Ia.

I recommend reading through this thread and following its links to better understand how to identify this particular type of stamp:

https://goscf.com/t/46191&SearchTerms=Ia

This is an offset printing - probably type VI so - Scotts 534A

correction: a good source suggested to me that I look at this again, I will now rescind my identification and just say it is difficult to ID some stamps even with a quality scan.

Thanks for the info so far, the one thing that keeps me looking is the fact that mine (along with the Scott 482A) has Schermack perforations and clear lines that this particular machine made. I have looked at all of the references noted (thank you again) but have not seen any with these particular perforations. The color appears to be deep rose but I am not 100% sure. Here is one site I have been using so far: https://siegelauctions.com/display_...p?catno=482A

Welcome watsup,
It is very, very difficult (some would say impossible) to identify color from online images. To become proficient in color identification a hobbyist should really have a number of reference stamps on hand. Highly experienced collectors have developed an 'eye' for color identification but the rest of us rely on reference stamps.

I have it on good authority that your stamp is an engraved Type I stamp.
Don
APS #094826

watsupchuk. Here is a link to an earlier question that I asked on the same topic. Note that these also show the Schermack perforations.

https://goscf.com/t/30769#30769

If you go to the link shown by DNA, you can get a better idea of what you have (or don't have).

Wow, looks can certainly be deceiving! This link was the deciding factor on this stamp: http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...2cType1a.htm

Thank you all for steering me in the right direction, I have many more in this collection to examine.

I have not personally collected in quite some time, this not so rare find and your help have piqued my interest again, I can't wait to dig a bit deeper!

Chuck

All known (42 I believe) 482As have Schermack perforations. When sold, at auction, they typically bring in the neighborhood of $25,000. So they are much more than relatively rare.

This variety was not recognized until some years after their brief usage, so most were thought to be common and discarded.

The odds of going blind looking for one, are probably better than the odds of actually finding one. If I had a $1 for everyone that thought they had found one, I could probably afford to actually own one. lol

Hello.
I have some kind of "Schermack" or maybe ...a forgery ?... I'm confused because it is precanceled stamp! This is the last of many Schermack topics on this Forum that I read in the last few hours. I performed research online, did all the necessary measurements and scans,please kindly HELP! Is my stamp real? If - yes, - what's the Scott number?









Scan with increased contrast (no watermark)

It is real. It's a Scott # 482.

Thank you.

The "chad" in the photos of the reverse is telling you that the precancel was applied to the original coil roll while it was still imperforate, and then the Schermack perfs were added, most probably "to order" for the original client.

Nothing unusual here.