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1873 U.s State Dpt 10 Dollar Stamp

 
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Posted 10/01/2016   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MerryEri to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hi!
Found this in my great-great grandpa's stamp collection album. I was wondering if It's worth keeping or selling. Does any of you have a guesstimate for value? Also, is ebay the best place for trying to sell it? Thanks!

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Posted 10/01/2016   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
MerryEri, welcome to the forum. The forum is often pretty quite on weekends. I say that so you'll give folks some time to reply.

I'm a novice, but my Scott catalogue shows your stamp is a valuable issue. It is identified as Scott O70. That is the letter O 70.
https://siegelauctions.com/lot_grd....lledfrom=lkp Check out the link.

Your stamp does seem to have some condition issues, so actual value will be much less than catalogue. Others here will advise you better than I can.

P.S. Would love to see what German stamps are in your album.
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Edited by stampcrow - 10/01/2016 5:43 pm
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Posted 10/01/2016   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If genuine this stamp would be of considerable value. However, the scrapes along the word STATE are suspicious. It's possible that an overprint such as "falsch" was scraped away.
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Posted 10/01/2016   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fake as Dudley mentions (overprint scrapped away to make it look real)
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Posted 10/01/2016   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
What was the overprint for?
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Posted 10/01/2016   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what they look like before the scraping to remove the original facsimile overprint.


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Posted 10/02/2016   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add myfelixthecat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's worth something to someone.If you don't want it see what it brings on ebay.
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Posted 10/02/2016   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you do sell it, please make sure it is listed clearly marked as a modified fake. Unmodified fake O70 sell for around $1 like this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Facsimile-o...AOSwM4xXbIKU
Being scrapped does not add to the value.
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Posted 10/02/2016   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Magguss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems like the black lines left after the scratch off and where the scratch off is doesn't match fascimliy. Not sure if this matters as much, but seems more like a real stamp that someone tried to scratch off a cancel. Wouldn't there be more scratched off above the A to get rid of the word facility?
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Posted 10/02/2016   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MerryEri to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for all your comments! I've been looking at the stamp closely and I also think that the "worn out" areas aren't wide enough to cover the supposed "facsimile". But then again, I'm definitely a novice... If it's indeed a real one but worn out, is it more valuable than a facsimile?
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Posted 10/02/2016   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"T" to "T" scratched off facsimile. Wrong color, wrong perfs and terrible detail. Compare the cheek pattern and ear pattern and herringbone patterns. Look at the darker green area under STATE and where it ends at the white oval. Total lack of detail around the U.S of A. Lack of detail of "of" which should be very clear especially on left side.
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Edited by redwoodrandy - 10/02/2016 4:49 pm
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Posted 10/02/2016   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Magguss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still altered. But if it was real with a cancel scraped out or just maybe stuck between stamps and ripped apart. I woul say if not a facsimile, would be worth more than $1 as a filler stamp, but not much more than 5-10% Scott.

Edit: although the t-t placement is suspect, do you think there is enough scraped off above the A to get rid of all traces of the letters?

Check for watermark?
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Edited by Magguss - 10/02/2016 4:16 pm
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Posted 10/02/2016   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Magguss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, didn't see randys edits. I'll defer to the experts.
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Posted 10/02/2016   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As redwoodrandy posted; stamp is wrong on several levels. Additionally, it is normal for these older albums to contain 'albums weeds'. Fakes/facsimiles and altered stamps became common by the late 1800s.
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