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Soaking Gum Off A Cto?

 
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Posted 07/16/2009   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tina to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm just curious say I was to soak the gum off of a CTO,then how would you tell it was a CTO?

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Posted 07/16/2009   07:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
whats a CTO? chief technology officer?
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Posted 07/16/2009   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cancel to order and someone with a good explanation will guide you from here i'm still learning myself
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Posted 07/16/2009   08:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i know what a cancel to order is just not familiar with abbs been collecting for over 20 years. usually the CTO have a perfect cancellation one good look and you know its not your regular cancellation. hope this helps
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Posted 07/16/2009   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sharksfan11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an article in Linn's about this very topic.

http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...rcourse.aspx
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Posted 07/16/2009   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice read shark.

i remember the older mongolian issues were like that also
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Posted 07/16/2009   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tina:

You may soak off the gum on a CTO'd stamp, but usually you can tell that it was CTO's. Generally speaking, the CTO'd stamps from the 1950s to 1970s were either cancelled as part of the printing process, or they were VERY neatly cancelled by hand.

The only exception that I know is the few stamps from some African countries, in the 1960s, were CTO'd by hand with regular cancellers. Those stamps would not be identified as being CTO'd, with out their gum... in my opinion.

David
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Posted 07/16/2009   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tina, Why would you need to soak a CTO?
They should not be adhering to anything.
Unless a spill or humidity got them and they are stuck together.
If that's true you have to soak them carefully.

Mike
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Posted 07/16/2009   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CTOs often become adhered to album pages when one is too aggressive with hinge moistening and there really is no sin to soaking CTO's because they are generally easily recognized as such. I have no problem with the practice as long as someone is not trying to pass them off as genuinely used.
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Posted 07/17/2009   12:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
oh no no no i'm not soaking mine,I was just curious as to how you would tell.Gee mike don't you know me by now? If something that gets my curiousity jumps into my head then I have to try and get an answer and that POPPED into my head.I did have a large glass of icewater on my night stand and it sweated onto a small stack of stamps and I had to soak them to get them apart but other than that i'm not into soaking just yet.I'm trying to get basics down here first,questions,questions,questions is what im doing,looking for answers is allcause thats me scratching my head lol
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Posted 07/17/2009   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tina, Keep asking, answers, answers, answers!
By the way only 11 to go before 500!

Mike
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Posted 07/17/2009   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No kidding looky there i'm almost a pillar maybe by tomorrow I will be
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Posted 02/08/2010   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


The topic of CTOs came up somewhere else in this forum and I responded something similar like this:

Usually, a CTO cancellation will be that from a cpaital city of any given country using the CTO method of cancelling.

There were literally 1000s of sheets that were neatly cancelled right in the middle of every 4 stamps to make any single stamp to have a cancellation just on the corner. So, it does not matter if you soak the gum off or not, it is still a CTO. This was the old way for getting CTOs on stamps.

Now some countries literally incorporate the "CTO" right into the stamp design.

Note as well, that in 'most' cases, stamps that have these CTO cancellations probably did not even see the country for which they were intended as mass quantities of these were sold through agents outside the countries they were supposed to represent.

Chimo

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