Washington 2 Cent Red ID Help?

Can anyone help with identifying these stamps? Are they rare?
I was thinking the first one is a rare type, with the fine hair in middle of head (I was reading about how to identify a bit)
I count 12 vert. and 11 horizontal - aren't most 10 or 11 x 11 perf.(holes)?

These are all attached to old addressed envelopes, not loose.





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At first I thought that the "perf number" was the amount per side of a stamp, but it's not. Actually, it's how many perforations the stamp has in two centimeters.

Here's the perf measuring tool I bought online: http://www.slingshotvenus.com/stamp...tyPerf5.html

OK Thanks! Can you tell by looking at this if stamp is rare or not?

I'm new, so someone else would have to help you with identification. However, here's some advice I received when I posted a similar topic to yours:




— https://goscf.com/t/54173#472215

Here's the Scott's catalog I have: http://www.scottonline.com/2018-uni...l-1-listings

The first stamp is design "Washington A157" and there are about 50 variations listed in the Scott catalog, and only a handful of those listings are rare/valuable—it would be hard for anybody to tell by the image…

The second stamp is design "Washington A129" and has a bunch of Scott listings like the first. This design has multiple types which are differentiated by watermark amongst other indicators—so, like the first, it would be hard for anybody to tell by the image…

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if someone here could provide more information at first glance.

This site will help you
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...ntifier.html

Neither stamp is rare. (Very, very small chance that the first one could be a rare variety but this is hard to determine without stamp in hand. Chances are lower than winning a lottery.)
But leave the stamps on the covers, they may be worth more than just the stamps themselves. Would like to see images of the entire covers.
Don

Here are the stamps on the envelopes.

I think the first stamp is a 634A Type 2, from looking / studying other stamps in that type.

Would a company that certifies stamps certify one that is attached to an envelope, or does it have to be loose / free of envelope?

This stamp should be certified, or not?

The special delivery 10 cent stamp is not too valuable is it? Anyone have a price guide for cancelled stamps?

The covers are quite interesting, worth more than the stamps alone. (First one is a special delivery R.P.O. cover.) Please post image of the back of this one. Others should also comment on the machine cancels on the other covers.
Don

Here is the back of envelope

Thanks,
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Don

what do you think

Oh, ok. Thanks

it's not a type II, it's a type I




Why would you send certifies a 634A that sell $ 3 to $ 5 on ebay ?
The price in the left column is for a mint stamp not a used one, and besides, it's not a 634A, I check quickly by comparing image with Photoshop with yours to make measurement, it's look very much like a 25 cents stamps

Thanks for your analysis. This stamp fooled me, I thought the signs were there for a type 11 - it has a thin 0 in the lower box to left of the 2, the scroll is detailed and has a slight gap between it and the outline of GW picture, and has details in hair and more lines in forehead.
UPDATE: Just checked these against one on ebay, and this does show not as much gap (scroll) and hair is not as detailed on mine.

If it is not a 634A, then what is it? A plain 634? Learning about what it is would help not only me.

What about the other stamps on the envelopes? All run of the mill too?

To get to any conclusions, better scans are needed to determine the die types. The 634 is unequivocally a type I in the close up scan. The 319 scans are too small to be used to determine if any of the stamps are Die 2.

In my experience, ebay is not a good site for stamp identification unless the goal is to do random. Some sellers do not have any ability to distinguish die types and may describe their stamps as the most expensive or exotic variety.