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Posted 09/16/2009   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jopie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this cover in my windmill collection and believe this to be issued for the 100th anniversary of the abolition of slavery in Brazil; why the Dutch windmill and map of the Netherlands on the stamps? Is it because the Dutch were (the first) slave traders? When I ask for the translation of Olho de Cabra= eye of the goat! Does any one know?

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Posted 09/16/2009   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jopie,

You have a nice First Day of Issue cover for those stamps, Scott 927 and 928. The stamps depict early Brazilian stamps issued in 1861 (Scott 39 and 40)

I have heard the early issues nicknamed "Olho de Cabra" because they were printed in black with white numerals and without any legend and are said to resemble the eye of a goat.
I have also heard them called "ohlo de boi, " eye of the ox. I think the difference had to do with their values. I'm not sure though.

Now having said that, Scott 39 and 40 weren't black but red and yellow. So go figure. Maybe I'm confused on the color issue.

The maps on the right of the stamps are probably the reason for the other symbolism on the cover. How that ties in is way beyond my knowledge of Brazilian History.

I hope that's a start.

Dan
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Posted 09/16/2009   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The square stamps were the earliest. The circle in the middle was bigger, so those ones were referred to as "Bull's Eyes". These ones were a little smaller in size and rectangular, and the circles are smaller as well. This issue was known as "Goat's Eyes".
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Posted 09/16/2009   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Dutch won control of half of Brazil's coastal territories before 1650. Established their capital at Recife, Brazil. By the 1654 the Portuguese forced the surrender of the Dutch in Brazil. However, many Dutch settlers remained.

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Posted 09/16/2009   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike the Dutch are all over the place.the smart ones go where the sun shines once in a while !!
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Posted 09/17/2009   01:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
philb, Did they bring their paint too?
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Posted 09/19/2009   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your answers to my DFC question; I learned a lot about these Dutch wanderers! I finally got smart and found the email for the 'head' of the Brazilian Study Group. As it is, this persons ancestors did come from Holland!
The answer for the mill on the cover: the stamps were issued in 1861 for postatge to France, Germany, Holland and possibly Italy. The shield is representing France, the Lion is Germany and since the FDC artist did not know the Coat of Arms of The Netherlands, he took the windmill! Now I'll find some more stuff where I don't know the answers, just to keep you all on your toes..
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Posted 09/19/2009   3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jopie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oops, I forgot the Log out (Phil) and log in (me) so the above should have had the pretty Dutch girl in the avatar! Believe me, it will happen again!
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Posted 09/22/2009   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OttawaMike to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You know what they say, Jopie. If you live together long enough, you start to look alike.
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Posted 09/23/2009   01:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
You know what they say, Jopie. If you live together long enough, you start to look alike.


Maybe that's what drove my kids out of the house at such an early age - they didn't want to look like me:

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