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Posted 10/04/2009   02:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tina to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I for some reason have precancels,cancel to order,and canceled all mixed up can someone (wpglwr hint hint)explain to me the difference in these,explain at my level of understanding please
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Posted 10/04/2009   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Precancels are stamps that were postally used but the cancellation was printed on the stamp before use, usually with the town/city and state where it was to be used.

Cancelled to ordet are stamps that were never postally used but have been canceled for the collector. Some of these were printed with the cancel actually in the design. These could never be used as postage and are sold to collectors to make money for the country of origin.

A cancelled stamp is one that was actually used to deliver a letter or parcel and will have some form of cancellation put on it at the time of processing.

Richard
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Posted 10/04/2009   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks ziggy now if only I can keep them straight in this head of mine
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Posted 10/04/2009   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most cancelled-to-order come from the old Iron Curtain countries (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, USSR, PRC, etc.) or Arab sheikhdoms (Ajman, Manama, etc.) and will have gum on the back of them despite the fact that they seem to have been used. The cancels are usually in a corner of the stamp, so as not to interfere with the design, and they are usually circular cancels, perfectly placed.

Here is an example of some East German CTO's -- note how in most cases, the cancel is applied in an attractive way so as not to cover too much of the design area. All of these stamps will have original gum on the back of them.





Polish CTO's are usually not as attractive, on the other hand:


Do not make the mistake of confusing CTO's with "Favor Cancels", which are usually something done by an individual who wants cancelled examples for his collection, as was done in this example:



Precancels in the US are usually of the "City and State" variety. They are easily found on many different definitive stamps, and occasionally on commemoratives:


Other countries also use precancels.

Here are some from Canada:




Belgium:


France:


These stamps are cancelled before they are used, and they are usually used by large volume mailers, who have to have a permit in order to get them. The idea is they send out a big shipment of, say, 1000 pamphlets in envelopes. If they used regular stamps on them, this would be a major pain in the butt to the Post Office staff, who would likely have to hand cancel the stamps on each one. With the stamps being precancelled, the mailer could then make bundles of these, usually all for the same city in each, which would then lead to faster handling. Because the mailer was doing some of the work, he would often get a price cut on the cost of mailing.
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Posted 10/04/2009   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sharksfan11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice WWII Poland stamps.
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I have recently acquired several of these us precanceled stamps. It is a very nice album of stamps that were precanceled with the city and state printed on them. The only thing for me, is I am not certain that these hold any value. I only acquired the selection because there were a few stamps in the book I wanted and the set was being sold as a whole. I will be keeping this selection and possible branching off with it for my kids or something, but I am wondering if there is any collectors value in them. Anybody know?
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Posted 06/21/2011   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Turtlesprint,

Precanceling collecting in a great deal of fun & joy.
Even an otherwise poor condition stamp suddenly does not matter but the precancel does. So many Cities, places, businesses in the USA and goes on to Canada, France, Belgium to name a few. There is more to read on this site as well as checking out the PSS [Precancel Stamp Society] & there's more to come!
Enjoy Collecting! A Great Learning Tool!

A Stamp is a terrible thing to waist!
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