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Posted 03/04/2008   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add laswabbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
There have been several posts mentioning ebay recently. IMHO I offer the following:

I have bought and sold on ebay for over ten years and I think it is a great way to access a wide range of philatelic material. That being said, however, there are alternative out there for those of you who find their pricing structure, postage costs, or other issues to be more and more out of line with the reality of the marketplace. I made a decision to severely limit my buying on ebay last week when I paid four or five times the going rate to get a few stamps mailed from Seattle (My own fault, by the way).

I have not yet actually bought anything from the site I will mention below, but I have been lurking there and will try it out as soon as my current crop of ebay bids cycles through. I have found many reasonable prices and shipping costs on www.stampwants.com.

Again - I have not yet bought there myself so this is only informational and not an endorsement of their site or their service. I haven't looked at their selling price structure either.

Another GOOD place to find material is from some of the members of this site. After they, and you, have your 50 quality posts you might find everything you need right here at home!
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Posted 03/04/2008   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Greg....

My wife and I have bought and sold on stampwants a number of times over the past year and have had no problems except for one seller that didn't know the difference between hinged and never hinged......I was able get a refund without incident. Overall I think buyers and sellers there are comparable to ebay, most are just trying to get a fair price for their material.

If no one minds a plug here......I'm in the process of creating a stamp store on Wagglepop. It's fairly small now but fees are very decent. I'm still waiting for my first purchase to arrive, I'll let y'all know how long it takes.

This link is to a list of sites trying to compete with on-line auction and store type sites. Several look promising and I think I'll be trying to sell on several of them.
http://db.powersellersunite.com/auc...tewatch.php/
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Posted 03/04/2008   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So far, my impression to ebay alternatives for stamps is that they probably work better for buyers than for sellers because there is a lot listed but activity on them is low. Is that anyone's experience? It was that way with Yahoo auctions before they folded some months ago.
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Posted 03/04/2008   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like bidding in the Nutmeg and Cherrystone auctions. Usually I get stamps and covers at lower prices and better quality than either ebay or stamp shows. You can enter bids and keep track of them for a number of auction houses by registering at StampAuctionNetwork.
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Posted 03/05/2008   02:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dopie13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My-2c,

I have looked at stampwants web site several times.
I think its a very well done site, and some of my regular sellers from
ebay send me emails with there new listings.

Only thing I don't like is that not many list used Egypt.

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Posted 05/03/2008   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have started buying on stampwants.com and have had good experiences with StampWants (the seller), Gary Posner, Northstamp and Rubystamps.

Both Gary Posner and Northstamp accepted my "best offer" on a cover and so I got a discount off of their advertised price.

StampWants (the seller) has a lot of items at 25% off right now. I just placed an order for six covers.

Rubystamps seems to price things at full retail, but if you look hard you can find some items reasonably priced. Ruby makes you register at their web site in order to pay them, which I didn't like.

Everything was delivered quickly and was well packaged.
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Posted 05/13/2008   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zaro to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been buying on ebay some and have found that in the last few years it is a sellers market. A few years ago you could get some very nice deals, but within the last few years there seem to be many more people purchasing stamps at a much higher price. Looking for other ways to purchase stamps.
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Posted 05/13/2008   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sfgoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the links to the other websites. I plan to lurk awhile to check them out. Again, thanks.
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Posted 05/13/2008   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with Zaro on this one..on the better Guatemala items it is a sellers market...i have some idea of values on the items..but I am bidding against people with deep pockets..if they want an item they do not care about catalog value..they will pay 4 or 5 times what I think an item is worth..but they better be careful..i doubt if the seller knows when a Guatemala upside down overprint is a fake or a forgery..but they charge like it !!
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Posted 05/14/2008   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm gld to see this topic back near the top after all this time.

I have completely weened myself off ebay with one exception. I still look for Modern_Who's items because he has had some pretty unique items I've been interested in.

I've been buying a lot off of StampWants from Birmingham Stamps and have nothing but good things to say about them. They communicate well, ship almost immediately, and have sent only perfectly described items.

I'm still lurking around StampOffers, but haven't bought anything there yet. It seems like StampWants has had everything I need at a fair price.

I'd like to echo what Zaro and PhilB posted. It does seem like there are a lot of strange bids on ebay. I'm not the suspicious type (right!), but if I were, I might think that from time to time people were shadow bidding or something.
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Posted 01/19/2010   05:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Alex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

You also have delcampe.com, which I use quite a lot.
And they launched a brand new website last December for auction houses to display their catalogues. http://prestige.delcampe.com

There are more than 8 million stamps for sale in many categories...
It's worth having a look at it.

Alex
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Posted 01/19/2010   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
with Alex that DelCampe is worth a look.


Please note the following soapbox speech is assuming we are talking about lower priced stamps usually ($0.05 to $25.00).

I have bought and sold on ebay for 5 years off and on in spurts. I like their site design, probably because I spend so much time on it now that I have learned to navigate around it and don't have to think about how do I do this? or where the heck is that part?

I have lurked at StampWants, bought a few things on DelCampe (and lurked) and look once in a while at other sites, Wensy, eCrater, Bonanzle, Stamps2Go, etc.

ebay's fees have been a complaint for sellers since I signed on. But I think that it's just business. If you want to advertise in a bigger market you have to pay more to do so.

StampWants is now trying to be more eBay-like, selling more than collectables. DelCampe (so far anyway) is a collectors site.

StampWants' and DelCampe's fees are less (pretty well free) to list and their final value fees (the percentage of the final price charged when you sell something) are less also. The lesser fees are a result of less non-stamps sales in part, but also less exposure to buyers, thus less advertsing dollars. This lessening of fees tends to draw more sellers (and collectors) who seem to sell stamps at a really cheap (reasonable) price. It's like going to the stamp club meeting and looking in the 10 cent book for the ordinary stamps. But that is with some sellers only.

Receiving payment as a seller is a big part of the fees for lesser priced items ($1-$25), from PayPal or Moneybookers or Google or VISA or similar commerce sites. That cost is there no matter what site you sell or buy from. Even if you accept or use checks (cheques) or money orders or cash, there is a cost involved (money or risk) to use them.



As a buyer:
I like eBay because I know it and (for me) it's easy to use. It's used mostly in North America and the UK (that I know of)(or was). Click, click, click and I have got that stamp. (slightly dangerous as we all know.) Each country site operates in it's own language so it is easy to use that way.

I like StampWants (BidStart is the main site now) beacuse it is designed to act like and look like ebay (if it works don't fix it), so it is easy to transfer to as a buyer (haven't sold there yet, but am looking). It used to be more for US concerns but now it seems more and more worldwide (English speaking I think). They make it easy to change over from ebay and a lot of sellers I recognize from ebay have appeared on StampWants, large and small. However, some do stay a while and then transfer some of their sales back to ebay because the exposure or a different exposure(?) to buyers is there. Perhaps it is an idea to sell on ebay and tell my ebay buyers about my StampWants (or whichever) site when I sold them something.

I like DelCampe because it's a whole other market that is missing on ebay and StampWants. Originally based in France, there are lots of French sellers on there, and many other European countries are represented. many folks from French-speaking Quebec, more and more Canadian and USA sellers. Unlike ebay, who seem to compartmentalize their sites (while saying the market is worldwide, but you have to click and ask for it to be that way) DelCampe can be worldwide in an easier way. They do have separate sites for each country but there is a delcampe(dot)net which has them all on it. You can go to dot com (USA) or dot ca (Canada) or dot fr (France) but choose the big International at top. It's seemingly easier to go worldwide than not to, which I like.

As a seller:
I like eBay because it's exposure to a Big, well known marketplace. It may be a bit difficult to have the worldwide market see you but it is there (Buyers, click the Worldwide in preferences! Scroll down, farther, keep going.). I suppose it depends on your own perception of risk when you deal with other people anywhere. I started out thinking that people in my own country would treat me better but I have found that it is the seller or buyer themselves, not their country or where in the world they may be, that makes the effort. Partly it could be me also, making an effort to get along. The people with better selling skills and friendship skills etc etc.

In order to sell or buy on ebay you have to charge or pay more, whether shipping or stamp price, to cover the increased costs. If you don't mind this then it's all good. In order to get stamps at a reasonable price you have to buy a page of stamps and pick out the ones you like or want and then (somehow) get rid of the rest. (Throw them out, donate them to the Scouts (yay!) or to a charity, sell them at the stamp club, or online somewhere (right here!). Gee, that's a lot of work to get two stamps. Remember to post pictures for all us picture hungry collectors.

I like StampWants and DelCampe because the fees are less so you can sell a single stamp for 7 cents or 50 cents or whatever and it seems (to a collector/buyer not wanting to be bothered with all of this behind the scenes costs stuff) that the stamps are priced more like the catalogs say they should be. You can get more bang for your buck while being picky and choosy.

Collecting is personal and so there are many types of buyers and sellers.

If I am looking for that special stamp it doesn't really matter where it is. What matters is that I find it and get it. (eBay)

If I am looking for a reasonable price on reasonable stamps (and people are generally pretty reasonable) then I think that I would go to a place that is reasonable to deal with (not too hard to navigate) and where the costs (shipping) were reasonable (buy locally) and the stamps were reasonably priced usually. (for Canada and the US, StampWants).

If I am looking for that special stamp and can't find it locally I would broaden my search (worldwide). I would still like to buy locally so I would look for a seller from my own region of the world (to keep shipping down hopefully) and that has a reasonable feedback (doesn't have to be perfect, I am not perfect). (DelCampe)



It is strange that I go to a site based in France (Delcampe) to buy stamps from a seller in Canada (my own country). However, it is also strange that I go to a site in California ( ebay) to buy a stamp from a fellow down the street from me too! And pay more because it costs more for the seller to advertise his stamp for sale on ebay.

For me in Nova Scotia, it's the same distance to California as to Europe. It takes about the same amount of time to arrive from there too. Shipping costs are usually more from worldwide, but that depends on the seller also.



One note on numbers of items for sale, on ebay the Stores are rather hidden away from general sight. On StampWants and DelCampe (as far as I can figure out so far) the stores (leave your items listed there for a longer period than a week or month) are cheaper or free and the results returned from a search or browse of categories Do include stores results, unlike ebay usually. So the numbers of items shown for sale can be a bit misleading at times. The numbers don't mean that all the items are good either. There are a lot of so so stamps on Delcampe and StampWants. ebay has some but they don't stay long, filtered out by the higher costs of keeping them there.

Costs involved:

The Lucky Buyers:
You have all the fun! You get to pay for it all. Any fee or extra bit (coffee, ice cream, donuts, extra seat cushions, time, effort, knowledge) cost involved in selling stamps and making a profit (do people really do that?) or just breaking even or really trying not to loose too much while having fun, the lucky buyer gets to pay for it all. Aren't you lucky? (Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer painting the fence character's psychology at work here.)

Well, sometimes you do get a seller with the all too rare altruistic view that, for a fellow collector, he will gladly donate his time and donuts, er, knowledge. Gee, that's here on Stamp Community.

The Seller:
Costs? What costs? There are costs? The lucky buyer gets to pay the costs, I don't! Where do you get this costs idea? They have all the fun. Darn lucky buyers. Excuse me, I must go buy more myself now. Darn lucky buyers. Mutter, mutter.



Marketing. Perception of value. Perception of risk involved. Perception of the donuts down in the coffee shop calling to you. Or the stamps half a continent away!

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Edited by Puzzler - 01/19/2010 09:29 am
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Posted 01/19/2010   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice read now lets get our store open on delcampe and stampwants
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Posted 01/19/2010   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What, work? That's for the Lucky Buyers isn't it?

You'd have more competition on DelCampe but StampWants may be the ticket. How about some on each?
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Posted 01/19/2010   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At a certain point, you just have to branch out to find some items. I've been looking for a dozen or so US items for over a year and they just aren't showing up on ebay or StampWants. I'm going to have to give DelCampe a try.
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Posted 01/19/2010   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another note about DelCampe:
I noticed that many folks listing stamps there do not describe the stamp well. Example: instead of using something like
'Canada 1908 #103 20c Quebec Centenary Cartiers Arrival / Ships'

they use
'Canada #103'

without anything else, and the numbers are usually (at this time anyway) not in Scott numbering system but Yvert's or Michel's or Stanley Gibbons. I think the only way around this is to list items with proper descriptions and then when the non-describers see that the described items sell better than theirs then they would change. maybe.

So one mostly has to scroll through the categories and listings until one sees what one wants.

Mostly. Not all. My own preference is using a search engine to find exactly what I want.

Some use the country name and a stock number of their own making. That's it, nothing else. Possibly the excuse for this is the lack of a catalog.(?)
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Edited by Puzzler - 01/19/2010 8:58 pm
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