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Posted 04/04/2010   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
How does anyone evaluate wheather a perfin is scarce or not, and is the value of the basic stamp decreased with a perfin? I have a scott 571 with a perfin that looks like SH&Co.
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Posted 04/04/2010   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't really answer your questions but thought I would offer this description of a stamp being sold, recently:


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#RB17c NICE APPEARING A SCARCE STAMP, VERY NICE APPEARANCE. A LITTLE CLOSE AT BOTTOM, PERFIN, THINS. CAT. $450....NET $65


When I saw it the other day, it struck me because I had never considered that a perfin might be a fault, yet the way this was written, it was strung in right along with the faults. So I suppose to someone who did not collect perfins it could be viewed that way.
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Posted 04/04/2010   07:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abohart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a perfins catalog available that has a sort of rarity factor and of course catalog value associated with each perfin. I haven't yet reached 50 posts, so I can't post a link, but search on "perfins club" and you'll find the site where you can get this literature. It's really kind of cool, as the catalog doubles as an album. That's for US perfins... I'm not sure if there's a similar product available for foreign perfins.

Hope this helps,
Allen
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Posted 04/04/2010   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There really isn't a simple answer to the question whether perfins add to or subtract from value. You need to research the specific perfin.

This stamp from the Indian state of Cochin



without the perfin would be worth about a cent, on a good day. With the D perfin (D = Dewaswom, the State Hindu Temple administration), maybe 10 cents, because Ds are the most common perfins from Cochin.

On cover like this



and with a nice strike of the (leaf-shaped) 'Too Late' stamp on the back



the whole thing is probably a $10 item.

So check up on your particular perfin. You might get a pleasant surprise.
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Posted 04/04/2010   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Sometimes it's in the eye of the beholder. The above 1929 Argentina is worth a couple of bucks at best, however, in summer '08 I saw one like it perfinned M.M. (Mueblería Maple) and offered the lady US $20 for it. It was not that she wanted more money for it, she just wanted to keep it. Last time we spoke she still had it. For all I know another person would refuse to buy it because it was perfinned.

I have never seen another like it. I would love any Argentine stamp of the mid-20s perfinned M.M. not just this particular one.
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Posted 04/04/2010   12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampaddict to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help everyone. Dean
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Posted 04/04/2010   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a tuff one. Most collectors & even dealers don't collect and are not well educated in the area of perfins. Perfins like precancels to many are pariahs they deface the original stamp issue. So then most of these stamps are set aside & ignored. Leading to a devaluing of the stamp. Only dealing with collectors who are well versed will the full value be realized.
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Posted 04/04/2010   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Hi All

Generally speaking, most collectors consider a 'perfin' stamp to be cheaper than the original w/o a perfin.

Having said this, it is a known fact that perfins overall are gaining in value and overall popularity, which, by itself, in a lot of cases can determine the value of perfins.

With regards to the RF (Rarity Factor) of perfins, this is more difficult to answer. Wherever I may have reference on perfins that will state the company that used any particular perfin pattern, I generally take the lifespan of that pattern into consideration. For example, if a company was in existence for a large number of years and used different patterns from it's worldwide branches, one can safely assume that they will be relatively cheap compared to a company that was in existence for only a short period of time.

Perfins, like any other facit of philately, will have it's value (or catalogue value where available) determined by demand and availability.

Hope this helps.

Chimo

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Posted 04/04/2010   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Perfin Society does have catalogs that cover the world.
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Posted 04/05/2010   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


True cgothra

These catalogues are cheaper if you are a Perfins Club member too and a little more if you are not. Either way, they are well worth looking into.

Cheers

Bujutsu
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Posted 04/05/2010   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abohart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even if you don't collect them, it's mighty tempting to acquire the catalogs just to satisfy curiosity... I swear, I could spend more on literature than I do on the stamps themselves.

-Allen
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Posted 04/06/2010   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Hello abohart & All

What you say about catalogues and reference books in general is quite true.

I am a firm believer though that these reference books / catalogues do pay for themselves in the end though.

Like any particular hobby, if you are going to specialize at all, I guesss you have to be prepared to bite the bullet and pay the prices for those specialised books.

I have my own personal library on different apsects of the hobby, as I am sure other members of this forum do as well. I think they are well worth it.

Cheers

Bujutsu
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Posted 04/06/2010   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abohart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two 8' bookshelves and counting! My heirs will have a fun time trying to figure out what to do with that library when I go on to the big stamp club in the sky...

-Allen
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