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A Tale Of 2 Kangaroo

 
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Posted 03/19/2008   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i dont know where the used copy came from..but I do remember the fresh looking one..i was looking at a falling apart brown scott album that came in a box lot..and all of a sudden something fell to the floor...it was the unused kangaroo..i said how can this fresh looking thing have fallen out of a junk album ? it has to be a fake or a reprint its so fresh..but it does have a watermark !! I know nothing about the 10 shilling kangaroos....

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Posted 03/19/2008   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a stamp board in Australia www.stampboards.com that seems to go nuts over these things. One member tells of paying a lot of money for a Sperati forgery of a 2 pound "roo" that was worth more than the original.

www.glenstephens.com/sperati.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.glenstephens.com/sperati.html

Very nice find, in any event.
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Edited by modern_who - 03/19/2008 11:21 pm
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Posted 03/20/2008   05:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, Phil.

I have a few roos, but not this one.

Australasian Stamp Catalog # 50 (Stanley Gibbons # 136)
I only have a 1988 copy, and in that they AUD$380 unused and AUD$90 used.
Just checked SG website, now AUD$750 unused and AUD$300 used.

Steve
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Posted 03/20/2008   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Gentlemen, it wouldnt hurt to send a scan to Glen..isnt it amazing when you are around stamps for a period of time there seems to come a "find"
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Posted 03/20/2008   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Modern_who I have a page or two of fakes and forgeries in my Guatemala area...believe me they abound..everyone tried faking the overprints..i would be very wary when they advertise an upside down overprint on ebay for 29.95..i dont pay much for fakes myself !!
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Posted 03/20/2008   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sperati forgeries are collectible, and a special case. I have some faked Sperati's!


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Posted 03/20/2008   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a fake!!

If I had some I wouldn't have a clue

Were these fakes made just trick unaware collectors.

Dianne
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Posted 03/20/2008   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Diane, how many have the real deal on the first page ?????
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Posted 03/20/2008   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dianne,

Not only is it a fake, it's a fake of a fake because the original fake would be valuable!

Here's a link with some information about him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Sperati
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Posted 03/20/2008   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ain't it something when we're to the point where we have to have an item expertized to make sure it's not a fake of a fake of a real stamp!
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Posted 03/21/2008   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add amitvyas03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sperati, also called "the Rubens of Philately", was a true master. He made his forgeries by "fading out" genuine used lower values, which ensured that the "new" stamp had a genuine watermark, cancellation, and perfs.

He then printed the forged impression by 2 colour photolithography, and somehow managed to get the ink under the cancellation.
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Posted 03/21/2008   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So did this guy forge stamps from different countries and is there a listing of known one (just for curiosity sake)

Dianne
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Lordy, Lordy! That's just great! Now I have to worry about forgeries! Aw, heck,with my pocketbook I don't think I'll have to worry! ha

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Posted 03/21/2008   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dianne,

Here is a Sperati Forgery Index someone is building online.

http://www.seymourfamily.com/rfrajo...atiindex.htm

Here's another site with a partial list.

http://catalogue.klaseboer.com/vol1.../sperati.htm
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