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Posted 07/14/2010   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sharksfan11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could someone explain about Se-tenants? I was trying to explain to someone about them and thought you might be able to explain better. Please show some examples of your favorites.

This one was released here in our area just recently. I really like this one.

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Posted 07/14/2010   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Luisvillalobos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wooooow, that is amazing!!
How much do those go for? and where could I find one?
That is amazing!
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Posted 07/14/2010   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Luisvillalobos go to your post office, they have them there.

shark... in a nut shell
Se-tenant stamps are different designs attached together.
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Posted 07/14/2010   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/14/2010   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Luisvillalobos go to your post office, they have them there.

That used to be my standard reply for current stamps, too. Now, I would probably write -- "go to your post office, and they MIGHT have them there." It's amazing how many post offices have a very limited selection of stamps.

k

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Posted 07/14/2010   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sharksfan11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They DO have them at USPS.com
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Posted 07/16/2010   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
shark

setenants is a french word and it mans joint together so int hat sense your sheet is not a true setenant

here is an example of the horse sheet which has 2 setenants one on the top and one ont he bottom



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Posted 07/16/2010   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They DO have them at USPS.com

Which is one of my main complaints. USPS has been enacting policies in the past decade to DELIBERATELY reduce distribution and funnel people to ordering stamps. This may work well for people out to buy stamps to mail things; but is of limited value to stamp collectors, who end up getting funneled to the Cave in Kansas City -- which, based on may last few orders many years ago, apparently no longer gets "select stock" when they went to pre-packaged stamps.

How bad is it? Our supposed "philatelic" counter, which is suppose to service a metropolitan area of several million people, NO LONGER HAS ANY STAMPS TO SELL. And yes, they were also no longer getting select stock in the mid-1990s. They had to return their inventory several years ago and have been directed to process passports full time, although they will process hand cancels.

Of the 2 philatelic counters within 4 hours driving distance: one completely closed a few years after moving into a brand new facility; the other has fewer stamps than I have fingers and toes.

The philatelic counter clerks have always been exceptionally nice and helpful. It's just that they are all being shuffled off into a different department, or directed to do other work unrelated to selling stamps. This is one of the reasons why I quit collecting US stamps.

The "service" part is gone. We should call them USP instead of USPS. Their attempt to mimic European/Asian post office storefronts to set up little booths in many post offices that sell phone cards, gift wrap, shirts, books... has failed miserably. Why? Because in Europe/Asia, you actually get service (there is always someone at that counter). People in the US don't go to the post office to buy those things, they go to the mall, Target, Wal-Mart... Americans go to the PO to buy stamps or mail things, and want to get in and out as soon as possible. They don't want to go to the PO to do their shopping. I told USPS this long ago in their focus groups, but they just don't "get it".

I'm not mad. I'm just very sad about all this. USPS has been plagued by extremely poor policy decisions in the past 2 decades. I think the Board of Governor's was too busy getting their annual $100K+ bonuses while USPS was continuing to bleed red ink financially.

k
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Posted 07/16/2010   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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setenants is a french word and it mans joint together so int hat sense your sheet is not a true setenant

That is true. The self-adhesive stamp craze has really changed many things, and collectors are having to consider redefining terms or creating new terms.

I should note that in the US, there has been a real yucky habit of using the term setenant to refer to stamps of different designs that originally appear next to each other on the same pane. Therefore, sometimes you will see in sales listings the terms "attached setenant" or "setenant singles". This is one of the reasons why those self-adhesive miniature panes are sometimes called setenants in the US. They are actually not directly joined together (you don't have to tear anything to separate them from each other), but are simply held together by the backing paper (you are removing already separate singles from the backing paper, not each other).
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Posted 07/16/2010   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
brilliant my dear k brilliant. I just love reading what you have to say.

btw you stopped the other class half way?
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Posted 07/16/2010   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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btw you stopped the other class half way?

Every once in a while, I have to stop my whining and complaining!

So I can whine and complain about other things!

k
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Posted 07/16/2010   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
K dear,

its the class we r talking about. nfortunately I have never seen you complain
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Posted 07/16/2010   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From http://oxforddictionaries.com

Se tenant
Pronunciation:/siːˈtɛnənt/
adjective
Philately

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(of stamps, especially stamps of different designs) joined together side by side as when printed:a se-tenant block of four stamps

Origin:

early 20th century: from French, literally 'holding together'

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Love that Kelp Forest sheet, wow.
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Posted 07/16/2010   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the only se-tenant stamps on that Kelp sheet are the right hand corner bottom two.
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Posted 07/16/2010   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler,
Actually they are not se-tenant as they are not attached, they are just next to each other.
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Posted 07/16/2010   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I am over-tired.
Thank you.
I stand corrected.
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