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US Scott #10 And #10A

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Posted 07/20/2010   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rohumpy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a Scott specialized and it lists Scott #10, but not #10A. My 2010 Pocket Scott catalog lists #10A. When did #10A get its catalog number?

I am asking because I just bought a #10A (with certificate) and am curious as to what gives. My album does not have a space for the #10A--I got it about 2 years ago.
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Posted 07/20/2010   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #10A, 11A, and 25A were new entries in the Scott catalogs starting in the 2008 US Specialized, and then subsequently in 2009 Worldwide Volume 1.
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Posted 07/20/2010   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks khj. Info appreciated
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Posted 07/20/2010   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anytime. I should note that in introducing these new catalog numbers, Scott deviated from their normal practice. Usually, all the number changes (additions/insertions, deletions, renumberings) are listed in a special section in every catalog. However, this time, Scott mentions the new numbers in the introductory message from the editor in the 2008 US Specialized. But failed to include these changes in the normal list contained in the 2008 US Specialized and the 2009 WW Volume 1.

The original #10a (lower case) has been renumbered to #10Ab. Since this item is unique, I don't think that will cause many people any problems!
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Posted 07/20/2010   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if you sign up at linn's for the website.. every month or so they release an update from scott...you can download and print..
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Posted 07/20/2010   6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information Kim even though I have the Sc 2007 specialized I was still in the dark.
regards Harry
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Posted 07/20/2010   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #10A, 11A... are well-known and well-established plate types that for some reason Scott never got around to including into the catalog until recently. Not a new discovery at all. Listing it as a major catalog number means it is also in the Scott WW catalog. I would guess over the years there was a certain amount of debate and what-not involved in that.

Now what's interesting is that a used #10A is actually cheaper than #10 in the 2009 catalog. I'm too lazy to reach over to my 2010 catalog to check if that is still true.
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Posted 07/21/2010   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a dolt I am. I subscribe to Linn's and it never occurred to me that I could get the Scott updates.

KHJ, it is my understanding that the #10 has just the outer frame line. #10A has recut inner frame lines. It would make sense that the #10 might be somewhat less common since the recutting probably occurred early on, and more 10A's were printed.

______it! I am going from here and spring for the brand new 2010 Scott specialized, I am tired of using a now out of date catalog.
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Posted 07/21/2010   07:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just went to the Amos Advantage site and the 2011 will be out Oct 4. Guess I will wait for that.
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Posted 07/21/2010   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
it is my understanding that the #10 has just the outer frame line. #10A has recut inner frame lines.

Yes.

Regarding the 2011 US Specialized, I would suggest that prior to purchasing, you confirm that all the listing errors found so far in the US section of 2011 Scott Volume 1 have been corrected (or did not affect) in the US Specialized. I don't know how tightly interwoven the database used to compile the listings is between the Volume 1 and the US Specialized. The errata sheet for the 2011 Volume 1 US listings is already a full page.
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Posted 07/25/2010   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Darn.
Now I have to go look at my 10s...
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Posted 07/25/2010   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone post a #10 and a #10A to show the comparison between both #10's,the only reason I ask is that I'm curious to see the difference.

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Posted 07/26/2010   06:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, these aren't the best of pics. It's easier to examine #10A first.

Top pic is #10A(Type II). Bottom pic is #10 (Type I).
Look at the frame lines immediately to the left/right of the portrait. In Type I, you will see a single frame line, whereas in Type II you will see an "inside" frame line as well.

#10A, Type II, recut inside frame line

#10, Type I
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Posted 07/26/2010   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Once you know what to look for, it is so obvious, that I can't believe Scott would've let it go without its own number for so long.
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Posted 07/26/2010   7:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Kim the difference does stand out,would it be the same comparison on the #11 as well as the #11A ,I'm still scratching my head trying to sort out the difference with these two .

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Posted 07/26/2010   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like I have one of each...
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