Csa #6 Pair On Cover

I have developed an interest in Confederate States of America materials which is serious enough to move me to purchase this cover.

August 1862 Richmond, Va. CDS but I can't tell if there is a second number for the day of the month. There is a "1". Can anyone figure out the second number?

Not that I would know,
but the paper represented by the cover,
is that in period?

Actually, I would not know either. The seller claims that the provenance for this cover is David Robinson, who I am learning was a collector of Civil War material. Now that you've raised the question, I'll ask the seller the same question and see if I get an answer.

If you play with the colors a little bit and I think you will find it is Aug. 10, 1862

quigngt,
look, I really hope I am not raining on your parade,
it's really just in the advance of knowledge,
the cancel raised alarm bells first,
then the cover just didn't sit right.
This is once I pray I am abosutely wrong :)
I may have been reading on too many forgery sites.

I note : the hexagrams in the corner of the frame.

Frajola is one of the main go-to-guys in this area. Visit his website. Here is a link to his reference covers http://www.philamercury.com/browse....&ob=postmark.

Tweak the search filter at that link as necessary. I'm assuming that the ID of #6 is correct, and that it is not a #7. The postmark date would suggest it is more likely a #7. I can't tell from just a picture. This is not my area.

There is also a section at his site on forgeries and reprints.

There are some similar papers shown
as best I can tell with digital.
That was a good link k, liked the pony express yarn.
Perhaps a US cautionary tale.
Riveting stuff.
http://www.sheryll.net/Forgeries/Al....htm#targets

did they have professional cancels then? where you could change the date and such? it looks to modern for me.
But what do I know.

Actually, a small negative can sometimes be helpful,
I know with the few doubtful stamps that I have had in the past,
taking them along to a stamp bourse, or a stamp club meeting
can be really eye opening and full of tips from the more
experienced.
Collectors love to be asked for advice and offer their opinion
on issues, I mean it's what we do

Jot all the queries down (like when was the first changeable
date CDS) and ask away .

interestingly, Ont hat site I found a franker that was identical to the one above.
also, after July 1, 1862 two of these would be used because the rate went to 10 cents.
I am not sure about the stamps themselves but the cancel seems genuine.
the placement of the date to the letter "R", the font type itself matches perfectly a specimen from webuystamps.
a mint version sold on ebay for 7 bucks...

I appreciate all the comments and suggestions for more research. The cancel is, at least in appearance, identical to CSA period cancels from Richmond. The stamps were identified by the seller as "CSA #6 (London)". I assume at this point, this means the stamps were printed by London (printer) or in London (England?) As for the unusual brown paper envelope, I have read that paper was a relatively scarce commodity at the time and any available type of paper was used.

This could be a fun and educational experience getting to the bottom of this.
Marty

Great attitude.
Sometimes it can be disappointing thinking
someone has passed on an engineered stamp or cover.
At least, that is how I have felt.
If I were showing for advice, I would be drawing attention
to the point where the cancel impression leaves the stamp
and hits the cover.

Yes, #6 was printed by De La Rue. #7 was printed locally.

Regarding the font, rather than concentrating on the "Richmond" which is what everyone initially does, I would focus on the numbers -- especially the "2".

Have fun!

Any idea how far is Richmond to Atlanta?
the postal rate was 5c per half ounce under 500 miles.
Wiki just says "later", it was raised to 10c.
So I guess August 1862 it had been raised to the 10c.

You're gonna love this answer...straight-line is 470 miles; by current roads, it is 532 miles. Hard to imagine the roads would've been much more direct in Civil War times...

So, keep digging...

What's the bet the sender knew the postmaster too.

32 miles doesn't sound much over 500,
but I wouldn't want to walk it.