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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   05:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I read through the forum and online that the mint produces copies of stamps for collectors, is there a difference between the original stamp and its copy? I mean how can you differentiate ?

"i have the feeling that this is a dumb question,"
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Slovakia (Slovak Republic)
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Posted 08/07/2010   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shareminator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Copy of stamp = original stamp (In this case copy = piece)
fake/counterfeit/forged/facsimile... stamp = no original

but be careful, there can be some people which say you - I will sell you copy of this stamp, and it will be copy = false
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Edited by shareminator - 08/07/2010 05:37 am
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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   05:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok a copy is a counterfeit.

This means that once a stamp is issued by the mint (whatever the number of sheets it produced ) for a certain period of time, then stopped and no longer produced again.

The mint does not produce it again for collectors?


for example;

this is the King Farouk and Queen Farida Wedding stamp 1938





my question is:

If I found that stamp at a stamp shop in a mint state "supposing it is an original stamp" is this stamp issued in 1938 or the mint produces copies for collectors so it is a 2010?

If so, is there a way to differentiate between both and does it matter "regarding value"?

Thanks

Amr
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United States
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Posted 08/07/2010   05:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an example of how English can be confusing.

If you speak of a copy of something, you may mean that you have made a replica of the original----for example making a copy of a document in a copy machine.

In the case of speaking of a copy of a stamp, you usually mean just the stamp, of which their are usually millions of copies printed and you have one of them.

Or, as shareminator said, it can be a fake made with the purpose of deceiving someone.
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Slovakia (Slovak Republic)
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Posted 08/07/2010   05:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shareminator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The mint does not produce it again for collectors?

This happen sometimes, I know about some of this. We call them - reprints.

If so, is there a way to differentiate between both and does it matter "regarding value"?

Value of "new" and "old" is connected with nubmer of exist examples.
If in 1938 was issued 10mld. of this stamps, and in 2010 was issued 1000 of them, new one is more much valuable.
If you buy in proffesional stamp shop they must say you real info about stamp :-) Reprints are in many cases little diffrent than original one. - again catalog can help ;-)
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Edited by shareminator - 08/07/2010 06:03 am
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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   06:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you guys for educating me you have been very much informative.


Quote:
This is an example of how English can be confusing.



I am sorry for that confusion, I guess this is because I am a newbie to stamp collecting "so I am not completely aware of the proper terms and definitions" as well as my mother tongue is Arabic.

Sorry again for the confusion

Thanks

Amr
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Israel
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Posted 08/07/2010   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Seahorse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amr,

I know it is a but off-topic - the Egyptian early stamps (until the early sixties) are such a treat ! Almost every one of them is a piece of art. I always admired them and considered them to be one of the most beautiful stamps ever issued. Her's another example:





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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   06:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seahorse,

i share your admiration to that period of time. I limit my coin collection to coins before 1952 and if I start stamp collecting I think the Egyptian collection will be limited to that period also.
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Israel
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Posted 08/07/2010   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Seahorse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amr,

I think it would be really nice for you to get this early Egyptian collection going. As for my self - I hardly keep any mint stamps in my albums as I don't like the effect of time and humidity. Used stamps are "washable" and many damages (as any mother would say to her kids) can be fixed with a nice warm bath.

Cheers,

Avi
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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   07:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Avi,

I hope I will be able to collect both coins and stamps of this period, the dealers in Egypt call it the "Royal Collection".

And what an interesting info about mint vs used stamps. I appreciate if you can tell me more details.
I didn't know that we are allowed to clean and wash stamps, as it is a taboo in coin collecting.

Regards

Amr
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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice
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Israel
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Posted 08/07/2010   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amr,

I started my Stamp Collecting journey whilst in Cairo.
I will never forget the day I fell across a backstreet Stamp Emporium and came out with a huge smile......and a few stamps !







Londonbus1....ah! The memories....
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Canada
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Posted 08/07/2010   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Bus is back! Very nice Egypt issues, including the invert.
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Egypt
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Posted 08/07/2010   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Londonbus1,

Beautiful stamps, Specially King Fuad stamp.

Happy to know that you have been to Egypt, hope that you have enjoyed your stay
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Israel
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Posted 08/07/2010   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Happy to know that you have been to Egypt, hope that you have enjoyed your stay


I have been to Egypt 6 times in total and all were fascinating.
The Postal Museum was small, but lovely to see the remainders of Farouk's collection.
My longest visit was in 1988 when I was there for one month and travelled as far as Abu Simbel near Sudan.
Apart from the Stamp Shop in the backstreets of Cairo, my most vivid memory was appearing on stage at the Egyptian National Festival in Suez in 1988 doing an Egyptian dance !! It was live on TV too !
More about that another time.
The most scary moment was a Ferry trip from Nuweiba [Sinai] to Aqaba [Jordan] on the first day of the first Gulf War in 1991. The boat was crammed full of Iraqis trying to get back home and I thought it was going to sink on the way. It was well overcrowded.
Luckily, as you can see, it made it to Jordan.
But above all this, my Stamp Collecting started in Egypt, and that memory can never be overshadowed.

Londonbus1
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