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Posted 03/28/2026   6:33 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Admittedly, this stamp is likely not a big deal to anyone but the most ardent of plate variety collectors, but when I saw it at an MSDA show last year I just had to buy it.

It appears to be a garden variety example of Scott #R115a, the invert of the 2nd issue 50-cent documentary. Centering is kinda "meh" although it's nice in that it's not punch canceled or punch-and-filled like so many frequently are.

I initially glossed over it, as I already have several examples, including one on document, but figured I would do my due diligence in the hopes that it might be what I was looking for... and it was!

It happens to be one of the 3 plate positions that exhibit the Scott-listed double transfer in FIFTY at the top! I have an example of the DT as a regular stamp, the sewing machine perf, and now the invert. The only remaining target would be the imperf, but those are incredibly rare even as the non-DT stamp.



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Posted 03/28/2026   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. That is really, really tough to see.
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Posted 03/28/2026   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been looking for one for many years; I knew that they exist but have not found any.
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Posted 03/29/2026   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a larger DT then this one on the 50 cent second issue.
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Posted 03/29/2026   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see it.
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Posted 03/29/2026   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Wow. That is really, really tough to see.


Left side of F I F T Y and along the bottom of all letters.

with Steve!
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I collect most of California's Redwood Empire , Humboldt & Mendocino counties, including the RPOs that ran through them. Any town or city I mention is located in one or the other.
My primary sources are
California Town Postmarks 1850 - 1935 compiled by John H. Williams & the Western Cover Society
Mobil Post Office Society RPO Catalog, MPOS U. S. Route and Station Agent Catalog, and the MPOS RPO Directory and AGT Directory
California Postmaster Compensation compiled by Alan H. Patera
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Posted 03/30/2026   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobcat126 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see it!....I see it! Wow, this is so cool. Love the inverted portrait as well.
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Posted 04/20/2026   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a great stamp!

As for it being a double transfer... My comparison photo shows yours at top, and an image from the Seigel site of a similar stamp (but no double transfer). It's surpising to me that only FIFTY would have been re-transferred and none of the surrounding lines of the design. I'm thinking that FIFTY may have undergone some degree of manual re-engraving as opposed to a second pass of the transfer roll. To only re-transfer the arced form of the FIFTY's lettering without also affecting the lines to the left and right seems kind of improbable. Or maybe I'm missing something?
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Edited by PhilaFactor - 04/20/2026 7:49 pm
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Posted 04/20/2026   6:08 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have a link to the Siegel lot in question? It doesn't like a double transfer to me. *MAYBE* the left side of the second F, but if so, that's the most miniscule DT I've ever seen on R115. Not one of the known positions.
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Posted 04/20/2026   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's possible. As I wrote earlier, there is a larger DT which shows as a shift to the right, especially noticeable in the F, but which affects all the letters but nothing else.
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Posted 04/20/2026   6:16 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FYI, the plate variety guide on my site is woefully out of date. Karl Lachemacher (R.I.P.) had identified 3 different plate positions of R115 with double transfers, positions 23, 32, and 57.
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Posted 04/20/2026   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PhilaFactor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To clarify... The Siegel image is for an invert but without any discernible double transfer. And that was my baseline for comparison. So I'm suggesting that the stamp was partially re-engraved.

The only way a siderographer could "walk between the raindrops" and re-enter only FIFTY without affecting surrounding lines would be to have a transfer roll of just "FIFTY".
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Edited by PhilaFactor - 04/20/2026 7:57 pm
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