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Bedrock Of The Community
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One could have inexpensive breakfast and lunch if one thought about it (and if one had a half mile walk from the hotel to the convention center). But dinner was going to be expensive in any case (not less than $40 at best). The real secret was to have a birthday last week and get taken out a couple of times. :-)
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I wanted to take friends to some great, less expensive spots I know in Cambridge/Somerville/other parts of Boston - but the center of gravity at any big show like this really is the venue and the cluster of hotels nearby, and we never seemed to make it very far beyond elsewhere in the Seaport! |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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I got taken to the North End one night, but I was the same way otherwise. And I was at the show at 8 every morning to see dealers and exhibits. I tried to make the most of my time. |
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Re the zoom was too expensive comments - rubbish. Each meeting room was set up w projector and mic. The only additional equipment needed was a laptop, a mic, and a zoom account. The AHPS live-streamed every one of its talks (9 or so) including our annual meeting for a total cost of about $200.
Re zoom availability limiting show attendance - again rubbish. And, if a society had a real concern, they could have delayed publishing the zoomed sessions until post show.
As for FDoI ceremonies - USPS already had a full-time tech in place w associated equipment so no incremental cost. And most people attending want the free swag which they can't get if watching a live stream
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Quote: Re the zoom was too expensive comments - rubbish. Each meeting room was set up w projector and mic. The only additional equipment needed was a laptop, a mic, and a zoom account. The AHPS live-streamed every one of its talks (9 or so) including our annual meeting for a total cost of about $200. So you all did an end run around the closed shop union worker requirement. Good to know. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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When they charge $800 per booth just to walk around and plug in a lamp, there should be an end run found. That's just silent extortion. |
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Seriously. I helped set up for a trade show booth in Chicago once and one of my co-workers plugged in a computer monitor to work on finishing their presentation, and got caught and punished. One of the union electricians in the booth came over and unplugged it, then took a lunch break for 2 hours, but left another union guy there to guard the booth and make sure the monitor didn't get plugged in again.
I remember the Internet connection was also outrageously expensive, multiple thousands of dollars for an average speed connection, not gigabit fiber or anything. Cellular data inside the convention center was spotty and very congested, wouldn't want to depend on it for a quality live streaming presentation.
Yes, the presentations at Boston should have been recorded and then edited and posted to YouTube or somewhere after the show. Give it a few days, maybe some will show up. |
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Quote: I helped set up for a trade show booth in Chicago once and one of my co-workers plugged in a computer monitor to work on finishing their presentation, and got caught and punished. One of the union electricians in the booth came over and unplugged it, then took a lunch break for 2 hours, but left another union guy there to guard the booth and make sure the monitor didn't get plugged in again. As someone who lives in Illinois and has gone to and helped at events at Chicagoland venues (McCormick Place, Rosemont Horizon, etc.), teamster extortion is both legendary and IMO criminal. The department I worked for ceased doing urban center events for this reason, amongst others. The expense load at these places is bad enough as it is, but when you add in the union complication and catering rates (e.g., $4 per donut, $3 per cookie, $5 for a banana, $78 for a gallon of coffee... and then add a 23% mandatory "gratuity" on top of it all), it just gets insulting. It's beyond ridiculous. |
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When I was working, my company had a booth at trade shows including NYC. I actually worked the booth for some time. There was always talk about the unions but we never had trouble so I guess they were handsomely compensated.
I remember going to the rest room at the show and people were expected to tip the guy in the men's room. I all I saw him do was hand people hand towels but guess he kept the place clean since there was a LOT of traffic. That was first for me on learning the extent of tipping expectations. |
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| Edited by angore - 06/02/2026 3:20 pm |
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For those who couldn't join the Collector's Club recap of the show earlier tonight, some stray notes from the organizing team:
- FIP patronage was a mistake - not worth it - Complaints about food (underwhelming, overpriced) but always the case for big conference venues - Next time, fewer frames to make it all more manageable, and fewer days: 5-6 max - 10 years too long to wait until the next one - better make it 5 |
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Wow, reading this post and all the responses was very very interesting. I still regret not going to this show even though it would have cost me an arm-and-a-leg. I completely agree we should do this show every 5 years instead of every 10 years.
I read that Pokeman card collecting was super popular now, so maybe with the stamp community (to include USPS and APS in this) we should create card packs that show stamps on them (examples would be: topical card pack (w/baseball style cards and the matching stamps inside), classic stamp card pack (YES - with cards and matching stamps inside), and current forever post office stamp pack (w/cards and matching stamps inside) - with the chance to get a hologram card, limited edition card, OR hard to find stamp inside - put them out yearly. Stamp collectors and dealers can collaborate on this I think. Or would all this be too expensive to create.
In the early 1990's Bon Air created Federal Duck Stamp collectable cards - I collected these and still have them....there was even an error card that I searched for. Then at shows kids and teens could rip packs of stamp cards AND get free packs of stamps along with it. We now have combined the popularity of card collecting with stamp collecting. The problem is: would it be popular? Who would fund it yearly? and would it just create a stamp card collector and not an actual stamp collector in younger collectors? - I don't know. Its just an idea.
I also agree there needs to be more swag at these large events - pins, pens, key chains, magnets, etc. I love love swag bags at conventions. YES I know its an expense and I am not sure how the show would pay for this either. |
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| Edited by Bobcat126 - Yesterday 6:24 pm |
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"- FIP patronage was a mistake - not worth it - Complaints about food (underwhelming, overpriced) but always the case for big conference venues - Next time, fewer frames to make it all more manageable, and fewer days: 5-6 max - 10 years too long to wait until the next one - better make it 5"
Skipping FIP patronage will likely automatically reduce the number of frames. I hear Chicago most likely for 5 year show. Talk of a non-coastal western location for 10 years. Vegas? Overheard at the show "Sorry, I can't afford that. I lost my stamp budget at the casino last night" |
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Bobcat - the USPS tried something somewhat like that with the un-inverted Jennies. |
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Quote: I read that Pokeman card collecting was super popular now, so maybe with the stamp community (to include USPS and APS in this) we should create card packs that used same designs as stamps on them (examples would be: topical card pack (w/baseball style cards and the matching stamps inside), classic stamp card pack (YES - with cards and matching stamps inside), and current forever post office stamp pack ( In some ways this was done with postal cards but I doubt many knew about them due to the superior USPS marketing skills. For a period they issued postal card with same designs as stamps. Here are two card backs for TV memories and Baseball. I have plenty of postal cards packs. On the front of the postal card was a standard postage imprint and a full size image of player on reverse.  |
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| Edited by angore - Today 1 Hr 26 Min ago |
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The question that needs to be discussed is what we learned from Boston Expo .
That question has two important factors going forward . First where was the money spend . Second what were the buyers buying and what were they asking for
At this point everything else is noise.
If we are going to look forward ,we need to see where we are right now . |
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| Edited by floortrader - Today 20 Min ago |
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