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For some reason my Scott National Album is missing two pages with the definitive coil stamps issued from 1954-1965 (stamp nos. 1054-1059, 1225 and 1229). One missing page has the single stamps and the other is for coil pairs. The attached image (taken from another collector's album for sale on ebay) shows the missing page for coil pairs. In my album, singles of coil stamps 1054-1059 are on the same page as definitive stamps 1043-1053. The page for the 1954-1965 [non-coil] definitives was updated so as not to include the coil stamps, but I didn't receive an update that has only the coil stamps (including stamps 1225 and 1229, the Jackson and Washington stamps issued in 1962-1963). Does anyone have a suggestion for obtaining these two missing pages? I would obviously prefer not to have to purchase an entire new album! Thank you!
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Paulsmoe, if you allow emails via this site, I may have some useful info for you.
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Quote: if you allow emails via this site He needs another 48 posts before he can send or receive emails from this site. |
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I wonder if the updated pages came in a supplement. I bought a 1978 Scott National back when that was the latest publication. I purchased supplements for many years. Then in 2019, I acquired a rather poorly maintained copy from the same era. I had also purchased the "recent" Part x pages that start in 1977(?) and overlap parts of my original album. I will look to see if I can find these pages. Perhaps I have multiple copies. |
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NicholasC, that makes sense to me, but I can't locate the update that includes the pages for the coil stamps. If someone can locate duplicate pages that they can't use I would be delighted to purchase them. I didn't get supplements from Scott for a few years, but instead I also purchased the "recent" Part x pages that start around 1977, and so that is likely the source of the issue. Now just 47 more posts before I can send or receive emails from the site!  |
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Perhaps my best option is to purchase the "Scott US National Part 2 1935-1976" album pages for about $70. Does that approach make sense to this group? (I was hoping that someone had "extra" pages for these definitive coil stamps, but that doesn't seem to be the case.) Before I go this route, can someone confirm that this "Part 2" includes the two pages for definitive coil stamps that I am seeking (one of which is shown in the photo above)? That would be very helpful. The ads for this Part 2 don't show all of the pages, and it would be a shame if I purchased this Part 2 and then discovered that it's doesn't include the two pages that I am seeking. Thanks, everyone, for your input! |
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$70 for the supplement seems wasteful if all you need are the 2 pages. If you are not in a hurry, keep an eye on the ebay sales for used albums/collections. I see two modern National albums with minimal stamps that sold within the last month for $29 and $39 respectively, with a low shipping fee of around $8 each. That's better than $70 and you may get a few stamps included that can help subsidize the cost. Or seek out a local stamp dealer, stamp show, or stamp club. Old collections from estates are being donated all the time, including many with minimal value that dealers are willing to sell cheap. I have 2 or 3 such collections and happy to send you the two pages, but you'll have to get those 50 or more quality posts here before we can exchange emails. So, for starters, what do you collect? What is your favorite stamp? How did you get started? What is the biggest mistake you made as a beginner? There are a number of threads with those topics where you can post your replies and increase your post counts, or start your own thread with a topic(s) of your choosing.   Good luck and have fun. The hunt is half the pleasure of collecting. |
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Thanks, ZebraMan! I'll get cracking on making about 45 additional posts! #128521; |
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… and with respect to your first couple of questions, I focus exclusively on US stamps, including duck stamps, official mail stamps, and other "back of the book" stamps in the Scott National album. I got started when my father gave me his collection of commemorative stamps from the 1940s to the 1970s - although my dad would be the first to admit that he was more of an "accumulator" than a "collector". I recently retired, and so I have more time to focus on collecting and organizing. |
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ZebraMan, I'm up to 17 posts! I have learned through trial and error that many posts (including this one, I expect) aren't included in my total! Just "quality" posts. I have apparently already irritated some collectors of revenue/documentary stamps by stating that I think it's fine to soak the stamps off of old deeds, leases, mortgages etc. I was surprised by the negative reaction I received. |
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Congratulations, you are making good progress. You will find the moderators are generous in measuring "quality" posts. I expect that this one of yours counts. It's just the ones where someone simply says "I agree" to every post they read, those shouldn't count. (And any messages in the "Introduce Yourself" forum, those don't count either for some reason). Yes, that was quite a reaction that you caused by suggesting it is OK to soak revenue stamps off of documents. I would expect you would get a similar reaction if you found this cover in an attic and soaked the stamps off the cover, and cut apart the three 12c stamps because you needed a #17 stamp to fill a space in your album.  Postal history collectors would want to tie you up to a stake for punishment. This is a rare 1855 usage to Russia and a scarce 37c rate. The cover (not mine) is worth much more historically and monetarily than the individual stamps off cover. Revenue collectors feel the same way about their documents. Perhaps even more strongly because of the scarcity of said intact documents. I can't always recognize a scarce usage from a common usage, so when in doubt, I keep my covers or documents intact rather than soaking the stamps. I have a lot of stamps with interesting cancels or large multiples where I say, boy, I wish that stamp were still on cover, what a pretty cover that must have been. That said, I do generally soak (or clip) modern common stamps from ordinary First Class covers, however some people may get upset at me for that, because modern postally used commemoratives on cover are also relatively scarce and 50 years from now there may be a collector of Forever stamps on cover who wishes I hadn't soaked those... |
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You make a good point about the reaction that I received when I stated that I didn't have an objection to someone soaking the revenue stamps off of a 1937 document. It was a "teachable moment" for me. I was trying to make the point that a 1937 lease between a railroad and a trust company didn't seem particularly "historic" to me, and that soaking the stamps off of this document seems no worse to me than soaking the stamps off of a regular mail envelope sent in 1937. I learned a lot from the responses, particularly the responses from revcollector (who has over 10,000 posts!). revcollector made the point that protecting "original usages" of stamps was important, and that there is a whole community of collectors that focus on stamps that are still on documents (in original usages). I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this, but I had no idea. Your image above is an extreme example (certainly I wouldn't soak the stamps off that envelope!), but what I learned is that postal history collectors wouldn't advocate soaking the stamps off of a 1937 lease, or a 1937 letter, or a 1967 letter, or perhaps even a 2017 letter (depending on the stamp, who it was addressed to, etc.). It took me a few posts, but eventually I understood the point. The 1937 lease (with stamps in their original usage) was historic simply because it still existed, and not necessarily because of the parties to the document or the amount of revenue stamps required for the transaction. I learned a lot from the discussion. |
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