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Hi, I need your help. I found this Franklin 1 cent stamp, which appears to be a Philippines cancellation (FELIPINAS?). Is it an overprint? A cancellation? I haven't found it in the Scott catalog… 
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Looks like a cancel to me. I don't see anything related to Philippines. What am I missing? |
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If the diagonal marking is an overprint, and if the stamp in your scan is (at it appears to be on my monitor) truly blue, it doesn't appear to be anything official of which I'm aware. The earliest US stamps Scott lists as overprinted for use in the Philippines include the First Bureau Issue's 1˘ Franklin in green, but not in blue.
From what I've read, unoverprinted US stamps were used for a short time in the Philippines prior to the introduction of the overprinted stamps. Regrettably, I'm not knowledgeable about Philippines postal markings, so I can't comment on whether what you're seeing could be a postal marking. |
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| Edited by Philatelius - Yesterday 6:33 pm |
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It is safe to say that life in the Philippines was quite chaotic in the mid to late 1890s, between The Philippine Revolution, The Spanish-American War, and The Philippine-American War. Prior to the overprinted US stamps issued in June 1899, ordinary US stamps could be used at US Military Postal Stations, here is an example (via e-bay) from February 1899.  That said, the FELIPINAS marking could have also been applied on an incoming postcard or letter from mainland USA to the Philippines during Spanish administration, for example. |
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"FELIPINAS" is an archaic Spanish term from the 15th century and was no longer used in the 16th century. The Spanish stamps themselves say FILIPINAS. |
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Aha, I couldn't see the diagonal overprint until now. I must have had my brightness turned down too low. My apologies. |
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I thought it might be a philatelic fantasy (especially because of the E) but the postmark seems good and above all, so it seems that some administration validated it for a shipment despite the FELIPINAS violet mark. |
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awesome find.. I too had not noticed the Filipinos overprint until I read the entire post. |
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Quote: awesome find.. Why? Quote: I thought it might be a philatelic fantasy (especially because of the E) A "good" cancel on a used stamp has little bearing on the validity of other elements. |
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Another angle....
There were *no* American Postal Machine Co 13-star flag cancelling machine installed in the Philippines before 1916, and most had slogans instead of stars.
Thus the odds are extremely strong that the 13-star machine postmark is the origin cancel in the U.S. and the magenta marking was applied upon receipt or even much later as a fantasy, of which I have no information or opinion, other than it would *not* be an overprint.
Nor would the flag cancel use on the stamp be consistent with typical backstamping practice on a cover from the Philippines to the U.S.
Bottom line ... it's often very hard to tease much postal history out of a soaked stamp, but it is important to look at every aspect. |
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| Edited by John Becker - Yesterday 9:56 pm |
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"…was applied upon receipt or even much later as a fantasy.." But the purple mark is to be below the cancellation, not above it. |
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Quote: But the purple mark is to be below the cancellation, not above it. Call me a doubter, but I have a hard time believing that determination (or any sequence determination, really) with such a washed-out magenta marking. Also, the black lines of the flag cancel do not appear to obscure the magenta mark on the Postmark Reveal image as they should if the machine cancel were applied later. But I have no dog in this fight, so it will be interesting to see other observations. |
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Quote: But the purple mark is to be below the cancellation, not above it. If you keep insisting as you are by your comments that this is something of note, send it in for a certificate and report back. It is just a few dollars to end the tiring, pointless debate. |
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