Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Russia: Geometric Numerals And Background Inverted.

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 4
Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/10/2011   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A rather gnarled old fella, 2 kopek
without thunderbolts, showing a geometric numeral "9"

Is there any resource on the web that discusses these, please?

How do I detect a variety in this stamp
called "inverted background"

Thanks all.



Send note to Staff

Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/11/2011   05:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bump!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
Canada
6750 Posts
Posted 02/11/2011   06:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I read War and Peace by Tolstoy when I was younger if that helps. Good book.

I have some of these older Russia in that album I keep not looking at to sort out sometime so I am curious also.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/11/2011   06:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the support Puzz,
Just the thought of war and peace
has me off my bottom and searching myself.
You could have suggested something a bit lighter, like
perhaps a Beano comic.

Now, time to open your Russian.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/11/2011   06:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


well 3 seconds off my bottom gave me this..
(no pictures I am afraid)

http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00009/21j

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
2835 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   02:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodney,

These postmarks are fascinating. This one's from the St Petersburg town post and was in use from 1880 to 1905. This is actually number 6 and corresponds to one of the town post's sub-offices. Each sub-office cancellation has its own number inside a different shape within the circle

Here are the ones I have for offices 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 (XI) and 13.

There were no cancellations like this for offices 10 and 12 but there was one for office 14 and also some higher numbers expressed in Roman numerals.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Nigel
Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
1361 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   03:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting thread.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   05:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nigel.
I cottoned on they were "St Peterburg" cancellations,
I found a gentleman who had won a silver in exhibit.

Could not find any sort of catalogue or listing
however. Something to keep an eye open for.

Also not a scan of an "inverted background"
the roneod sheets of the Russian collectors
rely on verbal descriptions.
How lucky we are nowadays with SCF and the internet
to show images of curiosities.






Another of my own with an 8 franking.


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by rod222 - 02/12/2011 05:48 am
Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
2835 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodney,

I see you you have at least one Moscow mark in that lot: second in the fourth row - number 1 in a triangle in an ellipse.

I recommend Russian Postmarks, An Introduction and Guide by Kiryushkin & Robinson, published by Barefoot.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Nigel
Pillar Of The Community
United States
3551 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alright Nigel. I am officially beginning to suspect your deity status.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
5774 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


While we sort that out, Rod, you might want to take a look at this October, 1961 issue of The Post Horn from the Scandinavian Collectors Club. The first article deals with the Finnish 10p inverted background of 1906, with clear pictures and explanation for that issue.

Granted, it is a different design, so I'm not sure much of this would translate to your particular Russian question, but it is interesting reading, in any event.

http://posthorn.scc-online.org/volume_18-4.pdf
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United Kingdom
2835 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Collin,

Thanks very much for posting this - this is superb!

I've spent some time this afternoon trying to understand what was meant by the description in Rodney's Rossica's article and I had to give up. Now it makes sense!

Thanks both of you for bringing up this issue now - I've never been sure what to look for.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Nigel
Pillar Of The Community
United States
3551 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cheated too Cjd. I read the article you put up for Rod. Now I have to go look at my Finnish and Russian stamps. Yahoo another project!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by jhlovell - 02/12/2011 11:47 am
Pillar Of The Community
United States
5774 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I was thinking, "why don't one of you just draw this in with PhotoShop" but I didn't say it.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2547 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!, another great thread. I stopped actively collecting worldwide to specialize on U.S. about 25 years ago but this thread had me digging out my old albums.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Learn More...
Australia
28052 Posts
Posted 02/12/2011   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Once again, a group contribution on SCF solves a curly one.
thanks very much all of you,
A great discovery Collin, in that issue of the posthorn,
and thanks to Nigel for the library recomendation.

I was feeling somewhat akin to the author, as I too,
kept and collected Russia and Finland and mixed them up
planning to "sort them out" at a later date.

When I first began collecting, I had nowhere to dispose of duplicates
so I bagged a lot of them, and I always thought what a folly that
was, keeping hundreds of copies of a stamp I already had.
That original "stupidity" has paid dividends now, when one
comes across curiosities like these, I can go through
my duplicates with a real enjoyment.
I have found this also with early India, Aussie sidefaces etc.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 4 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2020 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2020 Stamp Community Forums
It took 1.66 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05