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France "Broken Arm" Sower

 
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Posted 09/21/2013   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Picked up a stock book, and saw this item in there. What do you think? A listed variety, a very poor printing job, or a very poor counterfeit? Part of the arm is definitely in the wrong place, along with other obvious printing faults.

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Just the arm



The entire stamp



(Partial c in 5c, missing bottom of L, odd hair texture, etc.)
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Posted 09/21/2013   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a fake ,but it could be a postal forgery ,which would make it valuable to a collector .
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Posted 09/21/2013   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I'm no expert so bear that in mind when I mention stuff or ask questions. Does the "real" one to left have two outer borders on the left side? I do not see that on the one on the right. Or does the one on the left have a double transfer, or reentry? Is that what it is called? And how did people fake the paper of the stamps, as I can see the threads of the paper on both examples?

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Posted 09/21/2013   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another "real" one from my collection. Yes, the border on the left is double or even triple, depending how you look at it.

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Posted 09/22/2013   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not listed in my Gethin book about 20th Century French forgeries. Might be a plate flaw?
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Posted 09/22/2013   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for checking. If it is a plate flaw, it is extensive. I'm leaning towards poor ink quality, maybe moisture got into it somehow? Anyhow, pretty unique and will have a place in my collection.
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Posted 09/23/2013   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp partime.

Maybe sometime in the near future, the stamp might relegate a new listing as a variety in the different catalogues used?

It is a well pronounced variety and it stands right out. Even if it gets plate flaw variety, that would be ok too, but, then again, it has to be a constant variety. Still a nice stamp regardless. I will have to check through my French "Sowers".

Chimo

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Posted 10/02/2013   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just for fun, I emailed Yvert and got this response:

"Hello,
It's a real poor inking. A spécial stp.

E.Guffroy
Directeur de la philatélie
Yvert & Tellier"

Very nice of them to reply so quickly.
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Good for you.

Even as a 'poor inked' variety, it is still worth keeping and entering into and EFO album, or, keep in a French album as such.

Chimo

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