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Posted 05/03/2022   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can any of you tell me something about this item? Looks like it is fake to me !

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Edited by Cor - 05/03/2022 11:13 am

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Posted 05/03/2022   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes it is quiet fake..
genuine below.




https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collect...3406808.html
1866
1933 (10 May) Eurasia Aviation Corporation trial flight
Canton-Hankow via Changsha envelope to Changsha (10.5)
bearing Air second issue 15c. (2, one with plate number "1")
and Dr. Sun Yat-sen 25c., cancelled by "Canton" bilingual
c.d.s., showing "Eurasia Aviation Corporation/Trial flight,
May 10, 1933/Canton-Changsha-Hankow/Plane No. 5/Li
Djin-dsung, Director/R. Walter, Chief Technician/J. Rathje,
Pilot/E. Jeude, Mechanic" framed bilingual cachet in violet
with another superb strike on reverse, the first instance of
"dropped" mail in the history of the Chinese Airmail Service,
of the 155 pieces of mail carried on this flight only 32 covers
were sent to Changsha with the remaining 123 covers sent to
Hankow, very fine and rare. HK$ 2,500 - 3,000
Mail from this flight was dropped from the plane directly over the
airfield where it was picked up by local officials and then transferred
directly to the post office at Changsha.

Interasia Auction lot1866 -p.135
http://www.interasia-auctions.com/pdfs/55s6.pdf
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Edited by perf12 - 05/03/2022 2:11 pm
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Posted 05/03/2022   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you perf12. Can you tell me more about the stamp?
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Posted 05/03/2022   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp I have no idea.Looks like a local stamp of some sort from the 1930's ?
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Posted 05/03/2022   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try.......

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Posted 05/04/2022   03:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you rod222. Do you or another of you know the stamp of my picture. Is it real or a fantasy product?
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Posted 05/04/2022   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This all new to me, first time seen.
I'll check my catalogues re the stamp,
however if the cachet is a fake, chances are high, the stamp is likewise.
Another cause for suspicion, it does not appear to be cut from an envelope.
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Posted 05/04/2022   06:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have nothing.
I do not recognise the Vignette.
You shall need to do your own research, bloggers, links etc.
First step, have the script translated.

Nothing in my catalogues, rare to see a gentleman's visage on early
China, if so, usually Mao tse tung, or Zhu De.

Good luck keep us posted.
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Posted 05/04/2022   06:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lot 738 - China Postage Dues / Express Letter Stamps / Airmails - Interasia Auctions Limited Sale #56-59 - China, Hong Kong and Asian stamps and postal history
China, Airmail : 1933 (10 May) Eurasia Aviation Corporation trial flight Canton-Hankow via Changsha envelope to Changsha (10.5) bearing Air second issue 15c. (2, one with plate number "1") and Dr. Sun Yat-sen 25c., cancelled by "Canton" bilingual c.d.s., showing "Eurasia Aviation Corporation/Trial flight, May 10, 1933/Canton-Changsha-Hankow/Plane No. 5/Li Djin-dsung, Director/R. Walter, Chief Technician/J. Rathje, Pilot/E. Jeude, Mechanic" framed bilingual cachet in violet with another superb strike on reverse, the first instance of "dropped" mail in the history of the Chinese Airmail Service, of the 155 pieces of mail carried on this flight only 32 covers were sent to Changsha with the remaining 123 covers sent to Hankow, very fine and rare.
Estimate 1,500 - 2,000

Mail from this flight was dropped from the plane directly over the airfield where it was picked up by local officials and then transferred directly to the post office at Changsha.

Interasia Auctions Limited Sale #56-59 - China, Hong Kong and Asian stamps and postal history
China Postage Dues / Express Letter Stamps / Airmails

https://www.stampcircuit.com/catego...mps-airmails
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Posted 05/05/2022   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the stamp is a fantasy product, but if any of you recognise it would be great!
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