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Posted 06/06/2010   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone, please, tell me where I find these in the SG catalogue.





These are just a couple I couldn't find, I will post more later.

Also, what happened to East China?
In an old catalogue I have, East China was listed under the China section, now it's not. Where did they move it too? At the moment I only have the A-C catalogue out of the library, so I can't search any others.

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Posted 06/06/2010   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
G'day Steve,
the top issue is under Japan : Occupation of China
Volume 2 of Gibbons SOTW page 983

Part 3 North China
1943 Stamps of China opt "Hwa Pei" as top characters in Type 3
(The Japanese conquered North China in 1937 and formed a puppet Government in Peking)

SG 165 10c purple (No 515) General Teng K'eng (martyr)

hope this helps

EAST CHINA: is page 694 SG SOTW Under heading: "Communist China"
A: east china's peoples post
(all catalogued numbers prefixed with "EC" )


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Posted 06/06/2010   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Rod, I should have been more specific. It seems that some of the East China have disappeared from that section, this series for example (it was in that section in an earlier catalogue)...


Thanks for the rest of that info, I had a feeling it might have been under Jap occupation.

What about these...


Not even sure this is Chinese.



Thanks for the help.

Steve
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Posted 06/06/2010   10:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Top : Central China = SGCC0104 (1949) TCC14 $220 [1m0] red.jpg

Second: Taiwan (Formosa) Type 6 Dr. Sun Yat Sen and Palms
(cannot find it existing without overprint?)
Going to SG specialised...
SG80 (1948) october Recess Dah Tung Book Co. Shanghai
as type 6 but without noughts for sen in figures of value..
NO GUM Perf 14
$25 green (but looks olive to me)

Fourth : China Manchukuo Postal Savings stamps
Image care of Stefano site, which is no longer updated

Fifth: SG0401 (1936) T67 5c The Bund, Shanghai
issued 10th october 1936 40th anniversary chinese national postal service

THE BUND:
The Bund (simplified Chinese: ̲; traditional Chinese: ➩; pinyin: Witn) is an area of Huangpu District in central Shanghai, People's Republic of China. The area centres on a section of Zhongshan Road (East-1 Zhongshan Road) within the former Shanghai International Settlement, which runs along the western bank of the Huangpu River, facing Pudong, in the eastern part of Huangpu District. The Bund usually refers to the buildings and wharves on this section of the road, as well as some adjacent areas. The Bund is one of the most famous tourist destinations in Shanghai. Building heights are restricted in this area.


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Posted 06/06/2010   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Rod, I'm a goose, relying on my memory, I meant where is Central China, not East China. DOH!

I still can't find it though, in the 2008 catalouge.

Number two, I had the same problem, can't find it without overprint.

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Posted 06/07/2010   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're not a goose Steve, China can be quite challenging
to anybody, to coin an old Aussie phrase,
Cataloguing China is a "Peck's Paste" job...a little goes a long way I usually attack a few uncatalogued stamps once a week.

I thought I had seen every Dr. Sun Yat Sen stamp in existence,
then you come along and show me another (still cannot find stamp 2)

In SG Specialised..Asia
Central China is listed under the broad heading
"Chinese People's Republic"
Part 1. Regional Issues ~ Central China
Where it is in your catalogue I cannot tell.

(BTW nice HANKOW cancel on the Bund stamp)
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Posted 06/07/2010   01:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steve, it looks like SG has removed central China from its
Stamps of the World Catalogue now.

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Posted 06/07/2010   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Getting all a bit confusing, but the Sun Yat Sen $1 stamp, between the Taiwan and Manchukuo POSB stamp is another PO Savings Bank stamp, if I'm reading the Chinese in the cartouches at left and right correctly.
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Posted 06/07/2010   03:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info guys.
I really appreciate it.
Wonder why SG took CC out of their catalogue.

Here's a few more. I hope you don't mind.







Steve
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Posted 06/07/2010   05:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Tony, that was a real head scratcher
Joins the long list of the Sun Yat Sen Family.

Stamp 1: as Tony Pointed out National Savings and reconstruction
(I didn't have the Orange example, a new one for me)
President Lin Sen



Stamp 2: as Tony pointed out National Savings and reconstruction stamps.
the "little men" figurines are early Chinese coins.
The set:




Stamp 3: SG0984 (1947) T122 $1800 progress postal blue postal bus

Stamp 4: Central China
SGCC33 (1949) T4 $200 star enclosing map of hankow area
litho
kuo kwang ptg. Co Hankow
issued july 1949 p10, p11.5 and compound perf
part of a set of 11

Revenues: be aware there is a post in this Forum by Zhang Cheng
that covers some of these.
Apparently some revenues exist with over 10,000 overprints
... a collection nightmare

The last (revenue overprint) , I cannot locate the
underlying stamp
It should be SGEC 65 (1950) $15 train and postal runner shown as "vermillion"
yours looks orange, may be weathered?
watch for two perforations.

My SG numbers are not to be relied upon, Gibbons has overhauled their Chinese listings, and numbers vary widely from old catalogues







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Posted 06/07/2010   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First two are national reconstruction savings stamps. Last is a revenue (can't quite make out quite what) for Kweichow/Guizhou Province.
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Posted 06/07/2010   06:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Wonder why SG took CC out of their catalogue


Only missing from the "stamps of the world" catalogue Steve,
almost certainly they will be in the specialised China.

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Posted 06/07/2010   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, Steve, Rod, Tony, what a great thread and ID work all of you have done, and there are some stamps I have even never seen, that is a really good lesson to me.

I can not ID this stamp via Scott 2008, maybe it is multiplex overprints? I will check the Ma's Catalog tomorrow:

This stamp is a parcel stamp via read the Chinese character in the middle and upper, as Tony has indicated it is used for Kweichow/Guizhou area. Rod has indicated the basic stamp via SG Catalog, here is the information for it from Scott 2008 Catalogue, looks the basic stamp is Scott #5L70 Orange Vermillion perf. 12.5, 14 , Scott #5L70a Red perf.14, looks the basic stamp of Steve's example is Scott #5L70.

Will ask and check more information tomorrow and post here.

Here is a thread of Philb refer to the China post savings stamps:
http://goscf.com/t/5037&whichpage=1
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Posted 06/07/2010   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Triggersmob and rod222,

Your red $220 Central China stamp is listed as SG CC74 in my 1998 SG Part 17 China catalogue under Hubei, within the "Central and South China" listings.
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Posted 06/07/2010   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it's a parcels stamp. Now it's pointed out, it's so obvious. The first character of 'parcels' isn't completely printed, which completely threw me and sent me off in entirely the wrong direction
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Posted 06/07/2010   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Triggersmob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you guys haven't even seen some of these stamps, it's not surprising I was struggling.

Thanks for the info, I look forward to your reply tomorrow, Zhang.

I still have a few more to post (not too many), maybe tomorrow.

Steve
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