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Unissued Stamps From A Sunken Japanese Sub

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Posted 10/03/2010   8:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Edwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm bored and thought I'd ask a trivia question that I dont know the answer too


Does anyone know anything about unissued stamps from a sunken Japanese Sub probably WWII? my father has some somewhere, I remember him telling a story about a wrecked Japanese sub that was salvaged and inside they found a sealed container with mint unissued stamps.

I don't currently have picture or a stamp, just the story...
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Posted 10/03/2010   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you recall if they were purported to be regular, Japanese issues, or some sort of propaganda issue?
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Posted 10/03/2010   10:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll try to find out, I don't recall...
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Posted 10/03/2010   11:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you thinking of the Azad Hind issues, intended for the liberated India? They were printed in Germany, and carried charity surcharges equivalent to face value. They were printed in around half-a dozen denominations, the top values being quite scarce, although the lower values are common.

Rodney must have scans in his database. Come on Rodney, post 'em, just in case.
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Posted 10/04/2010   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have more somewhere but here is a sample of what Tony is talking about.
They also come perforated.







Hope this helps!

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Posted 10/04/2010   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LB, where IS Rod? He's been very quiet... Have you stolen him and his stamps and have him locked up in your basement?
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Posted 10/04/2010   06:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a printed bit of the story (as identified by Tony Mac):

http://community.webshots.com/photo...381883zvJHrR
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Posted 10/04/2010   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
great info I forwarded it to my family to see if they can find them so I can get a scan to post. so far no luck...
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Posted 10/05/2010   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you guys are really good at this stuff, with a bit of tale, no pictures and guess work on my part you upload the exact pictures and news clipping I was trying to describe from story only.

they found the stamp, and scanned it this is the best pic we will get sorry.



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Posted 10/05/2010   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am looking for this one if anyone has it to trade.



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Posted 10/05/2010   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hope you have your best trading boots on - the Rupee values are considerable rarities!
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Posted 10/05/2010   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does that mean you have one to trade?
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Posted 10/05/2010   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No fear! But they are notoriously hard to find - as scarce as the low values are common. I think I recall something about one of the Rupee values existing in two sets of colours, one set being even rarer than the other.
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Posted 10/05/2010   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I know they only exist imperf in the one set of colors.
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Posted 10/05/2010   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 1 Rupee has been reported in no less than five forms - including a version with dark purple instead of black. It was said that only one sheet of this was ever printed. (For the record, the other three are: orange omitted, orange and green omitted, and 'orange surface printing under the standard'.)

These stamps were intended for use in the Japanese-occupied Andaman & Nicobar Islands in the Bay of Bengal, but it seems clear that the submarine carrying them was sunk, and the stamps never made it. (Of course, if the stamps went down with the sub, you might expect the survivors to show water damage ... All the copies on the market would have been looted from the printers in Vienna after the War.)

(Source: various issues of the India Study Circle journal India Post)
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Posted 10/05/2010   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had never heard of or obviously seen the Purple ones. I was aware of the missing colors. However, I had read somewhere these were scavenged from the printers waste. There are also Forgeries of these as well. Why anyone would want to forge the lower values is beyond me.
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