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Country Help, Please (Genuine Or Made For Collectors?)

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Posted 10/12/2010   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Came across these two in a box of foreign stamps. What are the countries? Are they genuine or just CTO's made for collectors? (The printing seems quite poor to me if they are indeed genuine stamps.)



Thanks.

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Posted 10/12/2010   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is the purple one

AJMAD - CIRCA 1960s: A stamp printed in emirate Ajmad show footballer, circa 1960

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Edited by Edwin - 10/12/2010 10:46 am
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Posted 10/12/2010   10:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I only assume the other one is from a similar set from that country, as it has same cancel as my example and the sand script seems to match in the bottom right, I cant make out the spelling of the words however so I cant do any searches on the blue one.
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Posted 10/12/2010   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A great question. I am still not sure I have the story 100% but here goes.

Ajman is among the several countries that issued stamps in the 1960's and early 1970's which later made up the UAE (small country in the southwest Arabian peninsula). What you have are some of their earlier CTOs, and they were not really postally used. These countries are often called the Trucial States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trucial_States

The governorship of Manama was a sister country to Ajman and also issued stamps for collectors. Manama consists mostly of the city of Manama, which is the capital of Bahrain.
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Posted 10/12/2010   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Cinderellas.
They never carried out postal duty.
commonly referred to as "dune" stamps.

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Posted 10/12/2010   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These Manama stamps are also supposed to be from Ajman. This is is a different Manama from the one in Bahrain and is a small inland area within the UAE on the border between Sharjah and Fujairah that is controlled by Ajman.
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Posted 10/12/2010   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a small correction Smauggie. The Manama in the United Arab Emirates has nothing to do with Bahrain. It is a separate city in eastern UAE, part of Ajman.
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Posted 10/12/2010   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doh! Nigel beat me
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Posted 10/12/2010   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, all! It's what I thought. I have several others of these "stamps", most depicted in the sheetlet shown above. I was originally suspicious becuase of the poor print quality. I also don't understand how rockets/satellites and sports figures and animals all wound up on the same sheetlet.
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Posted 10/12/2010   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know what amazes me more the fact that ROD has every stamp known to man scanned, sheets included.... or the fact that he can ACTUALLY FIND IT... which is even more amazing
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Posted 10/12/2010   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a quick map of the North Eastern part of the United Arab Emirates taken from Wikipedia. It shows a small part of Abu Dhabi (in yellow) and the other six smaller emirates. I've marked with arrows two small territories that have also issued stamps: Manama (part of Ajman) and Khor Fakkan (part of Sharjah).

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Posted 10/12/2010   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarifications guys.
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Posted 10/12/2010   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I remember these from years ago. I had maybe 20 of them, or two sets it seemed to me.

Very small critters they were. I was disappointed by their smallness and the difficulty of reading and seeing them. I think they could have been a better success (?) if they were better quality and bigger. And real stamps too, that would have helped immensely.

I still remember the nice set of French jets, Mirages, from Sharjah (how I spelled it).
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Posted 10/12/2010   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I know it's Ajman, I suppose these are more of the same. (I read a post recently that many self-respecting stamp collectors would never dare consider these real stamps, as they have no philatelic value and are just a rip-off to newbie stamp collectors):


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Posted 10/12/2010   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With regards to Nigel's map, that white area just to the west of Khor Fakkan is an enclave, inside UAE territory, known as Madha, part of Oman. It is located halfway between the Musandam Peninsula, also part of Oman, but not shown on the map. Oman is also to the south, not shown.

Madha belongs to the Musandam governorate. It covers approximately 75 km2 (29 sq mi). The boundary was settled in 1969 with Fujairah. The north-east corner of Madha is closest to the Fujairah road, barely 10 m (32.8 ft) away. Amazingly, within the exclave is a UAE enclave called Nahwa, belonging to the Emirate of Sharjah. It is about 8 km (5 mi) on a dirt track west of the town of New Madha. It consists of about forty houses with its own clinic and telephone exchange.

An enclave within and enclave! Surprisingly stamps were not issued, but I wonder if there was a post office.
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Posted 10/12/2010   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
while we are on the subject I cant seem to find these in Ajman.

where would this be located or is this one of those countries Scotts decided didn't qualify as a stamp.



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