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Posted 11/10/2010   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add smauggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is an awesome design, but I cannot find it in Scott. Would like to know Catalog# or year of issue and value. It's a photo, so not as good as I would like it.
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Posted 11/10/2010   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just looked up a similar stamp I have in vermillion. Mine is a Scott #111; the one you have, I believe, is Scott #125 (blue green) dated to 1900. Sorry I can't help with value, but my catalogs are 25+ years old. At that time, a used copy was only worth mininum value of 10 cents.
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Posted 11/10/2010   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the 2010 Scott, the stamp is GB #125(17Apr1900) and has an italicized used value of $2.10.

It is supposed to be blue green. The light/bright blue is a color changeling.
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Posted 11/10/2010   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is more green in person. You guys are great, thanks!

So italicized means that people tried to falsify used versions of this stamp?

What do you mean by color changeling?
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Edited by smauggie - 11/10/2010 9:32 pm
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Posted 11/10/2010   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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So italicized means that people tried to falsify used versions of this stamp?

No. The stamp was issued on Apr 17, 1900. King Edward VII was crowned on Jan 22, 1901. So this stamp had a relatively short "correct" period of use. If I am not mistaken, the italicized used price is for stamps showing genuine postal use during that brief period -- but don't hold me to that.


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What do you mean by color changeling?

During a few months of 1900, one of the components used for the ink resulting the color changing from blue-green to light/bright blue over time. So it is considered a color changeling and not given a catalog number in Scott nor Stanley Gibbons. Technically, the ink was different during those couple of months, so I don't really understand why it was never assigned a minor catalog number.
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Edited by khj - 11/10/2010 9:46 pm
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Posted 11/10/2010   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sniped by wt1 - yup, you got the ID right!

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Posted 11/10/2010   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
K . . . the master at work. Thanks!
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Posted 11/10/2010   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is also known to exist with watermark inverted (i.e., upside-down). Since it is not on cover, it may be worth your effort to hold it up to a light and check.
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Posted 11/10/2010   10:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, if I read the postmark on your stamp correctly, it was used in 1900 -- so that would be "correct" period of use.
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Posted 11/11/2010   07:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I checked. Watermark is not inverted.
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Found on an Argentine cover.
Postmark : Printed Matter

Any members able to suggest what the "W.l" stands for, on Figure #86? and indeed, the "12" if you happen to know.

Thanks.

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Posted 02/01/2017   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean by color changeling?

Three different mixtures of ink were used to print the blue-green ˝d stamp. Mixture one contained lead chromate (poisonous ) so it was replaced with a mixture containing Prussian Blue and zinc chromate (a yellow pigment). This yellow was easily soluble so any "color changelings" come from this second mixture of ink and are due to the yellow being washed out leaving the various shades of blue.
The third mixture of inks contained non-soluble pigment.

These stamps were valid up to 1st January 1902 when the new Edward VII ˝d stamp was issued.

Edit: color changelings only occur after contact with moisture so that is why there are no catalog listings.
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Edited by scotzm - 02/01/2017 6:27 pm
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Posted 02/01/2017   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the more detailed explanation of the ink changes, scotzm!
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