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Posted 02/01/2011   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would this be considered collectible by a Machin collector? A pair with a kind of socked on the nose cancel? This came from a few small packets of fun to sort through and cheap worldwide (looking for hexagons).

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Posted 02/01/2011   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you kidding?
Orkney Islands
a tourist Mecca in Scotland.
The Norwegians visited in 900
and there have been visitors ever since.
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Posted 02/01/2011   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oops I was looking at the Bulfolk (hoping the second cancel could be read better than the first) and totally missed the Orkney. Gad zooks. Great Scott!
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Posted 02/02/2011   3:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a very nice postmark! It's from the small village of Balfour on the island of Shapinsay.
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Posted 02/02/2011   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks nigel!
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Posted 02/04/2011   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found a couple of the more unusual machins this evening.
First the 'test' self adhesive. This was issued horizontal so RM could track it easier. This is the later coil version 1997.
Nice Kit-Kat cancel



Secondly, one of the backprint varieties. This is a 12½p pastel green with double-lined star (typeII).



Oh and a nice mint block of 17½p



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Edited by AnthonyUK - 02/05/2011 05:44 am
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Posted 02/04/2011   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Anthony !
Great idea to keep this thread on the boil with some unusual bits.
I'll try and fish out a few tomorrow......or maybe...Mmmm, I/m not too tired yet.....

Nice block of 17½p
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Posted 02/04/2011   5:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As it will soon be Valentine's Day, here is a love Booklet



with nice Gold 1st class Machins!

And here is a nice big flaw/variety, SG# Y1685



Londonbus1
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Posted 02/04/2011   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

What is a "back print" variety please?

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Posted 02/04/2011   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodney, SG calls these "underprints". They were printed in blue on the back of the stamp over the gum. The initial use was on stamps sold in special discounted booklets starting in 1982 but some of the paper was used later for other stamps.

SG only prices them mint but you can find them used if you're very careful when floating them.
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Posted 02/04/2011   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very interesting topic and I appreciate all of the knowledgeable people who have contributed thus far. I have a good collection of Machins (MNH and used) but thus far have been focusing most of my efforts on collecting regional Machins. I look forward to more discussions on Machins.
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Posted 02/04/2011   9:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks nigel,
that's a new one for me!
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Posted 02/05/2011   05:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a list of machin values and the various backprints on the adminware site - http://www.adminware.ca/machin/m_star.htm
I have found a type 1 star on another 12½p that I can just make out through the envelope.
I have ruined a few of these in the past as the slightest touch when wet is devastating.
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Posted 02/05/2011   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Anthony, nice descriptive link.

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Posted 02/05/2011   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few more machin backprints showing how they can easily be lost.
Apart from the type I star (2nd left) the rest are pretty much faded away.
This isn't too surprising though given as the under printing was place on top of the gum so can be pretty much removed when affixing.



Here's a discount 'D' on a 16p



And here is the backing paper showing how the underprint transfers.

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