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Rocket Mail! (Cuban, For Starters)

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Posted 01/18/2011   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This was issued by Cuba on October 15, 1939 for an inaugural rocket mail experiment at Havana. The rocket was launched, but it just about ended there, as it only traveled 35 feet, or so. Interestingly, the experiments leading up to the main flight hadn't been much more successful, so the authorities must have had white knuckles at launch time.



I posted a rougher copy of this stamp (Scott #C31) before, but I just received a better example. If you have any stories of this experiment to share, or other classic-era rocket mail, please post away. (I'm not thinking about modern space covers...)
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Posted 01/18/2011   7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a fun stamp, and I was glad to pick it up earlier this year. It seems the real treasures from these experiments are the covers that were flown by (albeit poorly) through Cuba's rocket mail. Seems to me that rocket mail in Cuba was about having fun, not proving a viable delivery system. And lookie here, we are still having fun 62 years later.

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Posted 01/18/2011   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 01/18/2011   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sikkim Rocket mail despatched by the Maharaja.

Success not known.







"The Rocket Post" A film made in Scotland



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Edited by rod222 - 01/18/2011 11:48 pm
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Posted 01/18/2011   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From sundry discussion years ago on another NG:

In 1935, an engineer Roberti experimented with Rocketmail in Belgium. It
was, I believe, a private initiative in cooperation with the Belgian
Postal Administration. Several stamps (vignets really) were issued for
this purpose.

The first test was May 9th, 1935, launching a rocket from "Duinbergen"
or "Heyst Aan Zee". Second and third test, September 4th, 1935 in "Mol"
and "Duinbergen". I have no idea to what destination they launched these
rockets nor whether the mail arrived there still intact.

8 vignets were issued during these tests and have no "official character".

Sir Hystrix

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Someone sent me this image years ago,
not aware of the source
or in fact, if they exist.



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Posted 01/19/2011   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting stuff, Rod. Thanks.
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Posted 01/19/2011   01:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd, Cuba actually had 3 launches. The one you described was the first. The second went about 500 meters and the third crashed off course un the ocean.
A few other rocket mail eaxperiments


Cover from the "First American Rocket Airplane" flown on Feb. 23, 1936. It was also the first rocket mail to fly across a state line. It flew from New York to New Jersey. This cover is signed by Willy Ley (the originator of the flight and a well know science author in later years) and Fred Kessler (the promoter).


This cover from Holland was launched on March 6, 1935 by Gerhard Zucker, who also signed the cover.
Gerhard Zucker began experimenting with Rocket Mail in 1933 in Germany. He launched early Rocket Mail flights in Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Switzerland, Andorra, Belgium and Holland. His launches continued until 1964.


The USPS and Defense Department ran just one test of their missile mail system; on June 8, 1959, the USS Barbaro Navy submarine, stationed near Norfolk, Va., fired an unarmed Regulus I missile holding two containers with 3,000 letters inside them. Twenty-two minutes later, the missile and its postal payload arrived safely at a U.S. Naval Station in Mayport, Fla.

Postmaster General Arthur E. Summerfield, who witnessed the event, considered missile mail the future. He remarked, "Before man reaches the moon, mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to Britain, to India or Australia by guided missiles."



1100 letters sent by rockets from McAllen, Texas to Reynosa, Mexico on July 2, 1936. First rocket exploded. 900 sent back from Reynosa by rockets on July 3.

Edit: Cjd and Rod, great stuff very interesting topic.
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Edited by Russ - 01/19/2011 01:44 am
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Posted 01/19/2011   02:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Edit: Cjd and Rod, great stuff very interesting topic.


You too! never seen before stuff.
always exciting.
It's a shame some of the monumental stuff ups
were not captured for youtube.
They would make fantastic viewing.


This may be hard to beat...

(Not Mine)



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Edited by rod222 - 01/07/2012 06:27 am
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Posted 01/19/2011   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, Nice cover. The Challenger is such a icon to the complacency of man, we have done it so many times it will always go right.
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Posted 01/19/2011   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ, I have to check my sources...the results you mention sound like what I've read about the three experiments leading up to the "official" flight on October 15th. I've read that covers of some sort were carried on the experiments. I've been under the impression that #C31 was intended for the fourth, and only official, flight. More searching to do on my part...

Thanks.
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Posted 01/19/2011   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting posts on rocket mail. I'm surprised that in 1959 the postmaster of USPS considered missile mail the future. I cannot imagine it could be then profitable to use a rocket to carry mail when it get damaged every time it's landing.
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Posted 01/19/2011   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd, That is enyirely possible. I read several accounts of the Cuban rocket mail with a lot of conflicting info. It is interesting that so many rocket mail experiments were conducted in the 1930's. It was a very unique concept and provided a wonderful topical collecting opportunity.
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Posted 02/15/2011   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "Texas to Mexico" covers posted earlier (with the triangular stamps and American Legion address), relate to this most recent news article dated February 11, 2011. Very interesting read:

http://www.countryworldnews.com/new...le-mail.html
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Posted 02/15/2011   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry the picture is so bad, used Samantha's camera. This should finish up Rod's picture with his rocket mail. What number is your envelop Rod (on the back)

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Posted 08/17/2011   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John A. to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a few that I have. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Souvenir sheet or real stamp?


Newark to New York


And of course, the "trivial" book my grandfather wrote. It contains a complete collection of the stamps and 2 flown covers.


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Posted 01/07/2012   06:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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