Russia: Geometric Numerals And Background Inverted.

A rather gnarled old fella, 2 kopek
without thunderbolts, showing a geometric numeral "9"

Is there any resource on the web that discusses these, please?

How do I detect a variety in this stamp
called "inverted background"

Thanks all.

Bump!

I read War and Peace by Tolstoy when I was younger if that helps. Good book.

I have some of these older Russia in that album I keep not looking at to sort out sometime so I am curious also.

Thanks for the support Puzz,
Just the thought of war and peace
has me off my bottom and searching myself.
You could have suggested something a bit lighter, like
perhaps a Beano comic.

Now, time to open your Russian.

well 3 seconds off my bottom gave me this..
(no pictures I am afraid)

http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00009/21j

Hi Rodney,

These postmarks are fascinating. This one's from the St Petersburg town post and was in use from 1880 to 1905. This is actually number 6 and corresponds to one of the town post's sub-offices. Each sub-office cancellation has its own number inside a different shape within the circle

Here are the ones I have for offices 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11 (XI) and 13.

There were no cancellations like this for offices 10 and 12 but there was one for office 14 and also some higher numbers expressed in Roman numerals.

Very interesting thread.

Thanks Nigel.
I cottoned on they were "St Peterburg" cancellations,
I found a gentleman who had won a silver in exhibit.

Could not find any sort of catalogue or listing
however. Something to keep an eye open for.

Also not a scan of an "inverted background"
the roneod sheets of the Russian collectors
rely on verbal descriptions.
How lucky we are nowadays with SCF and the internet
to show images of curiosities.






Another of my own with an 8 franking.

Hi Rodney,

I see you you have at least one Moscow mark in that lot: second in the fourth row - number 1 in a triangle in an ellipse.

I recommend Russian Postmarks, An Introduction and Guide by Kiryushkin & Robinson, published by Barefoot.

Alright Nigel. I am officially beginning to suspect your deity status.

While we sort that out, Rod, you might want to take a look at this October, 1961 issue of The Post Horn from the Scandinavian Collectors Club. The first article deals with the Finnish 10p inverted background of 1906, with clear pictures and explanation for that issue.

Granted, it is a different design, so I'm not sure much of this would translate to your particular Russian question, but it is interesting reading, in any event.

http://posthorn.scc-online.org/volume_18-4.pdf

Hi Collin,

Thanks very much for posting this - this is superb!

I've spent some time this afternoon trying to understand what was meant by the description in Rodney's Rossica's article and I had to give up. Now it makes sense!

Thanks both of you for bringing up this issue now - I've never been sure what to look for.

I cheated too Cjd. I read the article you put up for Rod. Now I have to go look at my Finnish and Russian stamps. Yahoo another project!

Yeah, I was thinking, "why don't one of you just draw this in with PhotoShop" but I didn't say it.

Wow!, another great thread. I stopped actively collecting worldwide to specialize on U.S. about 25 years ago but this thread had me digging out my old albums.

Once again, a group contribution on SCF solves a curly one.
thanks very much all of you,
A great discovery Collin, in that issue of the posthorn,
and thanks to Nigel for the library recomendation.

I was feeling somewhat akin to the author, as I too,
kept and collected Russia and Finland and mixed them up
planning to "sort them out" at a later date.

When I first began collecting, I had nowhere to dispose of duplicates
so I bagged a lot of them, and I always thought what a folly that
was, keeping hundreds of copies of a stamp I already had.
That original "stupidity" has paid dividends now, when one
comes across curiosities like these, I can go through
my duplicates with a real enjoyment.
I have found this also with early India, Aussie sidefaces etc.