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Posted 02/23/2011   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The recent thread on the 1d Downey heads inspired me to go through my own Downeys with a fine comb. I turned up two interesting cases, and I'm wondering if anyone who has access to more specialised catalogues than the SG Commonwealth catalogue that I use can tell me if they're listed varieties and, if so, what their CV is.

The first case is probably SG 325. Although, mainly on account of the cancel, I can't tell whether it's Die A or Die B, it's more likely to be Die B (and so SG 325) on account of the inverted watermark. Although the SG catalogue doesn't list a booklet variety for this stamp, apparently it was issued in booklet form and these stamps had inverted watermarks.



What is interesting here is that the Downey head halfpenny stamps normally have a broken line in the lower right dolphin's tail. Example:



In the case of my stamp, this line is continuous, not broken. (My scan probably isn't clear enough for you to be able to tell, but I can assure you that this is the case.) I'm wondering now if this is a listed plate variety.

As for the second stamp, it's SG 335), a booklet stamp with the Simple cypher watermark. However, my stamp is perf 14 (to be precise, 14.25) all the way around, not perf 15 X 14, as it states in Gibbons. I also wonder if this is a listed variety.






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Posted 02/23/2011   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi jimjamtwo,

It makes me happy to hear that you decided to have a look through your Downey Heads after reading the 1d. Downey Head thread! Nice One!

I am still a rookie when it comes to stamp collecting,and have really only began to develop my specialized knowledge of the 1d. Downey Head. That being said, I am neck deep in the ½d. Downey Head issue, and know a few basics that may be able to assist you with those stamps, and help me learn about them also!

I can't identify your first stamp as a Die 1A or 1B from the scan provided, but I have prepared some images to view in comparison that will hopefully help you with this.

Die 1A - The upper three scales on the body of the dolphin form a triangle, as shown below:



Die 1B- The upper three scales are incomplete, as illustrated below:



I have highlighted on your stamp where this feature will be located in yellow, along with two other areas of interest in red. If you have the time, close-ups of the line you spoke of and the other two areas I circled in red would be appreciated.



There is a listed variety in the Four Kings Catalogue for 325 with an inverted Watermark(ex booklet panes) VFU= £4.50. I am hoping for you that your stamp turns out to be SG 321, this same variety is listed at VFU £1500.00

With regards to your second stamp and the question about the perfs, I will have to go back to my notes a bit deeper to try and give an accurate answer or suggestion.(Or even better would be a more knowledgeable member to come along) Perf 14 stamps are known to exist, but I don't think on a Die 2, which your second stamp is.

Have a Good One,

Skilo54


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Posted 02/23/2011   10:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Die 1 (left) Die 2 (right)
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Skilo54, thanks for the information. First, I think there actually is a possibility that the stamp is SG 321, because this is Die A. The second stamp is definitely Die B and there are some noticeable differences. If the first stamp is not Die B, then the only possibility, of course, is that it's Die A, in which case, as you say, it's worth quite a lot of money - although I wouldn't go so far as to describe this stamp as VFU!

The problem is that the cancel was placed over the spots where it's easiest to tell the difference between the two dies. (This may be why, if it is Die A, no one has picked up on this before.)

I regret that while I can provide close ups of the areas of the stamp that you've circled, they are not going to be very clear. I do not have a very good scanner and it's likely that they'll just be highly pixellated. Nonetheless, I'll see what I can do.
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Here are the three details you requested, skilo54.







A large scan of the stamp can be viewed here:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ima...e4c2511b.jpg


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