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Some Random Cinderellas Lurking In My Spares Box

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Posted 03/02/2011   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add crwhb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have recently been sorting through my various envelopes and boxes and came across more odds and ends in the cindrella field than I knew I had. Some are well known, others I am not at all sure about - maybe people here will know much more than I do!

First a well known one - a corner block of four of the private local issue of John's College, Oxford dating from 1884 (listed in The Encyclopaedia of British Empire Postage Stamps, vol 1, page 200, under 'Locals'):

Next what I think are 'toy' stamps, from an early Post Office play set, probably French and c. 1890 or so as they are inscribed 'Poste Amusante' with a face value of 5c(entimes?):

Next three National Telephone Company stamps (4d, 6d and 1/-), again I presume late 19th century:

Next a stamp of the Felt Hatters & Trimmers Union - I know nothing about this one:

Next a Gramophone record stamp (duty stamp?) - looks like HMV from the dog and gramophone picture on it:

Lastly (for now), 3 copies of a modern 'issue' by Vic Short of the Manchester Philatelic Society, one 'cancelled' with a rubber-stamped address:

Nothing too special perhaps but I hope of some interest. I will post some more things a bit later. Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice cinderellas chris
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Posted 03/02/2011   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crwhb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A few more - starting with a London & North Western Railway parcel stamp - cancelled 30.01.1904:

next a Liverpool Parcel Delivery Co 2d:

next a Francis Day Hunter (duty?) stamp:

and a 5 pfennig Telegraph stamp cancelled (looks like 3.10.75):

lastly (again for now), six pre-decimal issues of Carniar:

It's surprising what you pick up more or less by accident over time! Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe, reading this article on the internet, that the Francis, Day & Hunter (FD & H signature) stamp is from a record or pinola, proving the copyright, if I understand what I have read so far,
http://www.78rpm.net.nz/mechcopy/mech1.htm

Love the German(?) telegraph stamp.

The Carniar stamps remind me of the Falkland's Island's KGVI and QEII sets, they look bare and cold but the ships in colour add some warmth. Nice.
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Posted 03/02/2011   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I think I have it wrong now. Here is a quote from the above mentioned article:

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The stamps were affixed to the records by the Recording companies. The stamp was a sort of receipt showing that the company has paid to the copyright owner (or his assigned agent), the appropriate royalty payment in respect of Mechanical Copyright. This grew out of the old habit of 'stamping' printed music with the composer's signature. The composer would be paid by the publisher so much per 'stamp'. With the advent of music reproduction onto media that required mechanical devices for its reproduction (Cylinders, Records and Pianola Rolls), a new form of Mechanical Copyright was required. This led to the introduction in Great Britain of the Copyright Act of 1911, and the Board of Trade Regulations (1912) following.
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Posted 03/02/2011   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crwhb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about this set of five. They are inscribed 'J. Carre' and 'Mazelin' and seem modern:

and a pair of Robert Sinclair Tobacco Co Ltd 'First Aerial Delivery' 70th anniversary:

plus a decimal currency group of the Talyllyn Railway Railway Letter stamps:

Maybe a few more later....... Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crwhb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the Francis Day Hunter might be a duty/copyright stamp. Thanks for the link. Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The German telegraph stamp is from the 1875 set. They were usually cancelled with crosses in pen in black and red so this one may have been used postally.
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Posted 03/02/2011   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The National Telephone Company stamps were used in the UK from 1884 until 1891 to pay for telephone calls. There were also 1d and 3d values.

The portrait is of the company's chairman, Col. Robert Raynsford Jackson.
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Posted 03/02/2011   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crwhb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks. I knew about the telephone stamps and that the telegraph one was German. Hadn't thought about possibility of it being postally used though. A few more oddments. First one I don't know about. The currency is the peso so I assume South America/Mexico:

Then another copyright type (tiny at only 14mm square) though I don't know from what company:

Six Parcel Stamps from David McBrayne Ltd (Motor Services) and presumably dating to the 1960's (as old currency so must be before 1971):

and twelve Parcel Stamps from W. Alexander & Sons (Northants) Ltd dating post-1971:

It's all good fun! Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's great to see the MacBrayne's labels. They bring back memories of travelling on their boats on the west coast of Scotland (although to be honest they were part of Caledonian MacBrayne by the time I knew them).
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Posted 03/02/2011   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris, nice collection with some very unusual items. Thanks for posting.
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Posted 03/02/2011   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crwhb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I have always had a bit of an eye for the weird but most of these have been acquired more or less by accident - often when I have bought a job lot because I wanted something else in the lot. Here are the last few in this group. Five from the Ffestiniog Railway decimal stamps (post-1971):

A pre-decimal 1d Talyllyn Railway stamp:

A Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway 10p stamp:

a Keighley & Worth Valley letter 20p stamp:

and a Derby Corporation Omnibus 1d parcel ticket:

And I think that this is probably quite enough for this topic....... Chris Wren
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Posted 03/02/2011   6:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a stretch ? My ticket to the Coca Cola museum in Atlanta !!

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Posted 03/02/2011   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris thanks for showing ...whats out there is just endless..if a person collects cinderellas it almost has to be a unique collection..the thing is how to display it ???
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Posted 03/02/2011   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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And I think that this is probably quite enough for this topic.......


How dare you Sir!
one can never get enough Cinderellas.

With material such as yours, you are immediately
inducted into the SCF Cinderella hall of infamy,
welcome.

In future , a small dose at a time is preferable
takes us a while to sift through this lovely material.
A lot of which I have never seen.


Your lass with the Phrygian Cap and Parasol,
is the allegory of France ..Marianne

This particular Marianne is Marianne "Gandon"

These were a set of labels produced
for the L'exposition Philatique Int de paris 1949.
held at the Grand Palais paris

This label also comes overprinted in 1954
"Journee du Timbre"

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