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Posted 10/24/2012   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So there's two registration labels?
1 English 1 Indian.
Nice cover, I see $$

Tony, this is a travelogue thread,
you are supposed to give a brief outline of the
Registration address (ie Hyderabad) Tch! Tch!

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Edited by rod222 - 10/24/2012 8:19 pm
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Posted 10/24/2012   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Amongst a bucket of Registration labels donated by
SCF member Ryan Davenport, hardly made a dent in them.


Budapest : Capital of Hungary.



Jaroslaw :
Jaroslaw is a town in south-eastern Poland, with 40,167 inhabitants, as of 2 June 2009.[1] Situated in the Subcarpathian Voivodeship (since 1999) It is the capital of Jaros³aw County.


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Edited by rod222 - 10/24/2012 8:33 pm
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Posted 10/25/2012   02:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rodney, since you demanded a travelogue on Secunderabad (or Sikandarabad) ... I can but quote from Murray's Traveller's Guide to India (1949 edition):

"5½m. N. of the Hyderabad Residency. Secunderabad is named after the Nizam Sikandar Jah (1803-1829). It is one of the largest Cantonments in India, covering 19 sq. m., and standing 1830 ft. above sea-level. ...

The main road from Hyderabad to Secunderabad passes along the E. edge of the Husain Sagar, a fine lake about 11 m. in circumference, said to have been constructed by Ibrahim Kutb Shah (1550-80). ... The view across the Husain Sagar from this main road, which is built on the bund (1 m. long) is most picturesque. At the N. or Secunderabad end of the bund is a Boat Club.

On the S. bank is the Saifabad Palace, formerly used as a suburban residence of H.E.H. the Nizam, but now utilised for the Mint, and the Finance, Public Works and Political Departments. ...

The Brigade Parade Ground at Secunderabad is used almost entirely for ceremonial purposes. There are several fine buildings in the Cantonment, including the King Edward VII. Memorial Hospital (with 225 beds); the United Service Club stands out as a landmark for miles around. The two hotels are on the Maidan, close to the railway station."

Does that whet your appetite?
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Posted 10/25/2012   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thankyou
So mail for europe would (generally) go rail to Mumbai,
not to east coast?
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Posted 10/25/2012   03:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bearing in mind that I don't collect British India, yes: as I understand it, all European mail went through Bombay, in the pre-airmail days, anyway.

Can't remember if I've recommended it, but William Dalrymple's White Mughals gives a wonderful picture of life at the Hyderabad Residency 200 years ago, as well as being a tragic (and true) interracial love story. Anyway ... it appears that the mails from Hyderabad went down to the East coast in those days to Masulipatam.
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Posted 03/29/2013   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Czech Republic, March 19, 2013, registered envelope to Halifax, Canada.



Note that the meter label is actually a registered label also, with the tracking number on it. No postage stamps on envelope.

The scribbling at top is over-printing of excatly the same information over that printed upon the label.
' 430 04 CHOMUTOV 4 '

However, the Canadian re-registration delivery label has been placed over the Czech registered label, keeping the original quite safe from further harm. Possibly to keep Canadian scanning equipment from misreading a Czech bar code?
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Posted 03/29/2013   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prahanoaki to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kowno, now Kaunas, Lithuania

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Posted 03/30/2013   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Time we had a quick run through Yugoslavia.

Austrian label still in use under the SHS in Nov 1919.


Two early SHS types. Note that the Latin script of the second uses the French/English name Belgrade rather then the Serbo-Croat form Beograd



The bulk of labels between the Wars were variations on a bilingual (or rather, bialphabetical)type:


R boxed separately, lower case PO

R boxed separately, upper case PO


Cyrillic first

Latin first

Where 'open' labels were used manuscript or handstamped entries were made in one alphabet only.






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Edited by Bamra1 - 03/30/2013 07:51 am
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Posted 03/30/2013   08:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
During WW2 in Nazi-occupied Serbia a new format of bilingual label was issued.


But in Fascist Croatia Cyrillic text was outlawed for all official documents and so labels in Latin only were created. These continued to be used up by the partizans and the new government of Yugoslavia when they recaptured areas of Croatia.






This shows a manuscript deletion of Hrv (=Croatian). Mitrovica had been part of Serbia since 1919 and was known as Sremska Mitrovica (to distinguish it from the town of Mitrovica in Kosovo). The Nazis ceded it to Croatia who called it Croatian Mitrovica. This part was therefore deleted on captured labels.


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Edited by Bamra1 - 03/30/2013 08:27 am
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Posted 03/30/2013   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After the war the bilingual labels continued to be used up in the late 40s, but all new ones took a format with a single PO name.
Some were printed in Cyrillic.


But the vast majority used Latin script.
Examples predating the use of a PO ID Code,showing different styles of R:





Nearly all are in (mulifarious shades of) blue, but occasionally black was used.


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Posted 03/30/2013   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Examples after the introduction of PO ID Codes.


Lower case

Upper case



Those with meter mail were able to opt for a Registration mark


Automatic labels



To finish off, I don't really do post breakup; but here's modern Slovenia and Croatia. Anyone like to post the others?


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Posted 03/30/2013   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. You thought I'd finished. Blame Rod. Back on page two he gave plenary permission to add handstamped Registration etiquettes as well.

Most(but not quite all) the Registered handstamps belong to the period 1945-50 and were presumably issued for temporary use after the war until labels were available. Note that the final one is from the central PO at Novi Sad so we are not just talking about small and unconsidered places.
Those with an actual PO name (in this case Pancevo) are difficult to find. I have recently seen a Sombor one pre WW2.
The Cyrillic letters are Br = Broj = number.




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Posted 12/07/2013   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add primoz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two labels from Croatia and Yugoslavia.



R label from Croatia - Zagreb



R label from Yugoslavia - Podgorica



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Edited by primoz - 12/07/2013 3:57 pm
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Posted 12/07/2013   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A nice Yugoslav cover, primoz. And I think we can say pretty confidently that this was the last type of registration label to be used there, given that on the day this label was stuck on the envelope Yugoslavia had only 55 days of existence left. On Feb 4th 2003 it became the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro.
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Edited by Bamra1 - 12/07/2013 3:59 pm
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Posted 12/07/2013   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add primoz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bamra1, yes only two ex-republics stayed in Yugoslavia (not for long), Montenegro and Serbia. But also some completely new states rised from Yugoslavia.



R cover from Republika Srpska, Serbian part of Bosnia and Hercegovina



R cover from Kosovo

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Edited by primoz - 12/07/2013 5:12 pm
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