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Bayern 18 Franc

 
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Posted 03/12/2011   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I could use an ID and near value for this red 18 Franc Bayern. Anyone out there in the Bayern department? Thanks - Jeff

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Posted 03/12/2011   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add butterfly to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hit the jackpot with that one!
#14 $140 in 1982 dollars
more if embossed
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Posted 03/12/2011   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tough to tell but I don't think it is embossed. Thank you very much for the info butterfly. :) But I do have these to go with it.

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Edited by jhlovell - 03/12/2011 1:14 pm
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Posted 03/12/2011   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jeff, It's a striking design and a nice colour. It's a pity though that someone was so rough with the scissors!

The stamp is an 18 kreuzer value. I believe the word "Franco" indicates that postage has been paid - you see it a lot in postal markings on old covers,
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Posted 03/12/2011   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am assuming franco would be franked or something to do with franking.
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Posted 03/12/2011   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Michel catalogue price for the 18 Kr used is 180 Euros.

However, the price you'd get in real life is much lower because of the poor margins.

Prices are higher for stamps on paper with red silk fibres (I think that's what the word 'Seidenfaden' used in the catalogue means).
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Posted 03/12/2011   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks jimjamtwo, nigel and all. It all helps
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Posted 03/23/2011   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add downunder to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In reallity, I am afraid, you won't get more than a Buckfor that one.



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Posted 03/23/2011   6:20 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff, I'll be at the Northwest Philatelic Library on Saturday. They have copies of the German Philatelic Society's books on authenticating 19th century Germany and German states stamps. I have used them numerous times to authenticate my own collection of German states (another area of specialty for me). I'll be happy to verify it for you :)

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Posted 03/23/2011   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Brian, that would be very helpful. I would appreciate knowing one way or another. Perhaps Peter was referring to condition, but I am not sure it would devalue that severly. Maybe real dollars, but not catalog value. Thanks as always, Jeff
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Posted 03/23/2011   11:22 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A genuine item that's rare will always have some value even if it's a filler. In this case, the stamp has no margins and and the lower, right corner looks a little rough. But it's clean, has excellent color, a light to moderate cancel, and displays well ... and as such, is inherently valuable :)
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Posted 03/24/2011   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed
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Posted 03/26/2011   5:10 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff,

I am looking at the German Philatelic Society's reference manual of forgeries for Bavaria even as I type this. There are no known forgeries of this stamp listed for the 3k through 18k. That doesn't mean they don't exist, it just means there are none that are considered 'good' forgeries.

I would classify this as an authentic Scott cat 14, Ver Red. Cat: $140 with 4 margins.

Grat!

Brian
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Posted 03/26/2011   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Brian, immensely appreciated!
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