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Started My Newfoundland Collection Yesterday - Need Help

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Posted 04/21/2011   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sylvain.m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks smauggie. It's makes more difficult to differentiate between a watermarked issue and an unwatermarked issue. Example Pictorial issue No.2 and Pictorial issue No. 3.
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Posted 04/21/2011   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What it means, I suspect is that you (and I) will have to pay very close attention to the margins of our Newfie stamps for the slightest hint of watermark.
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Posted 04/21/2011   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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the "rose" shades (1862-63) come on watermarked paper, the watermark consisting of the maker's name "Stacey Wise 1858". This is found on a small percentage of the sheets. Watermarks are not found on any other Newfoundland stamps.


So the rose shades 62-63 would be the only ones watermarked with "Stacey Wise" and not any others with that specific mark. Not that there were no others with different watermarks.
Another thing I noticed was very few prices in Unitrade for re-entries so that makes me curious as to rarities with them as well. For better close ups of the re-entries
http://www.re-entries.com/listings.html#prov
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Posted 06/07/2013   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations.

Its a great country to collect

Do you have any other questions?
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Posted 06/07/2013   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Minesweeper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well it's not really a country. In fact, it's not a country at all.
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Posted 06/08/2013   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Newfoundland is a great province to collect. Though now part of Canada, I find the Newfoundland stamps are distinctly different in design from Canadian issues. The Newfoundland designs reflect the unique culture and history of their region that is still evident today.

I find the Newfoundland watermarks are somewhat easy to detect. I have discovered a number of them by simply looking at the back of the stamps through a bright light.
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Posted 06/09/2013   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With respect, I would disagree with Minesweeper in his statement that Newfoundland is not a country at all.

Clearly, today it is not and part of Canada.

But as this is a stamp community and within that context ALL the stamps of Newfoundland being collected were so issued when Newfoundland was a separate country until 1949. Technically, it was a self governing dominion of the British Empire from 1907 to 1949; prior to that a Colony from 1583 to 1907. So, yes for this community, it is a country.

my opinion of course based on these facts.

with respect
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Posted 06/09/2013   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Newfoundland is not a country to a political scientist, or even a geographer (no offense to geographers), but to us stamp collectors, it is just a form of shorthand to refer to it as a country. We do the same for New Zealand, which, during the classic era, was not a country, either.

Here is the statement from the 1926 Imperial Conference on the status of the dominions:


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The United Kingdom and the Dominions are autonomous Communities within the British Empire, equal in status, in no way subordinate one to another in any aspect of their domestic or external affairs, though united by a common allegiance to the Crown, and freely associated as members of the British Commonwealth
—Balfour Declaration of 1926


Saseno, Castellorizo and Long Island aren't countries, either, except they are, to us.

My 2d.
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Posted 06/26/2013   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Minesweeper,

My take on the above thread on watermarks. Leaving aside the mechanics of viewing watermarks to fluid or bright lights (I use the latter), your question on how to tell the watermarks of Newfoundland is too broad. It depends on each issue and varies quite widely. For example, the 1861 stamps made by Bacon Perkins on their paper does have some Stacey Wise watermarks on SOME stamps. but not all. and the 1862 stamps made on Stacey Wise paper by them had some watermarks of "Stacey" and "Wise" and some with both. And all the other stamps from 1865 to 1949 also have wide types or not of watermarks.

So unless you have a specific stamp to post and ask about I would highly recommend you get the Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalogue which SMAUGGIE recommended above and posted a link because this book has the specifics you will need on watermarks. For example, it would answer Sylain's question about which position in a sheet was watermarked (but for EACH issuance). It's the old Chinese proverb "Give a hungry man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a hungry man how to fish, and feed him for life". The book is not cheap but you will be set for life

my opinion anyways...
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Posted 06/26/2013   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One thing I have found since starting my Newfoundland collection is that it is going to take more money than I thought it would. It is hard to find good material at a decent discount to scott or unitrade.
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