Large & Small Queen Confusion

I need help. I haven't really begun to tackle the Large/Small Queens yet, I'm just trying to understand my stupid album

The older Schaubek Albums like mine don't use Scott Numbers. I think the newer ones do, now that Amos owns Schaubek.

The Queens begin on PAGE 2 of the album, shown below:



The page number and Scott Numbers in the different font have been added by me. Can some of you smart Canada collectors verify that I'm on the right track.

I'm assuming the Large Queens at top -- #21 is in the center just for balance in the appearance of the layout.

#23 came later, so it's dropped down a couple rows. Notice that Schaubek calls #23 "orange yellow" although Scott & Unitrade say, "yellow orange".

If I'm correct with all these assumptions, then #25-29 lay out fairly logically.

Am I correct the Small Queens are on the lower half of the page? #34 in an odd spot for "balance" then 35-40 logically hopping over #23.

I assume I have #44 in the right spot, since there is only one 8-cent; and #46-47 are also easy to identify (I'm hoping).

OK; now on to the hard part....

The next page in the album is PAGE 2 ** (yes the asterisks are part of the page number).

In the left margin of the page, is the notation LAID PAPER. I assume, but don't know for sure, that notation applies to every stamp on the page.

If I'm reading Unitrade correctly (and that is no given at this point), the Laid Papers issues 31-33 are outrageously expensive and I'm never going to have them anyway. But, I'm not certain they're on this page?



The third and final page number of the Queens page is (are you ready for this...) PAGE 2 ** A. And that page looks like this:



Bottom line:

Am I on the right track here with my numbering?

Anyone have insight into the pages I haven't numbered?

Should I blame Scott? Schaubek? or Myself?

KirkS

I agree that the small queens are to be installed on the bottom half of the album page.

As a side note (for fellow tenderfoot philatelists), it took me a while to be able to tell the difference between large and small. The large queens always have the denomination written out (instead of just numbers). Small queens just say "CENTS".

I just spent a bunch of time trying to solve this and had to give up. My basic assumption was that the last page had repeated colour variations on the top half and bottom half of the page due to perf differences - everything on the top half of the page should be 12 x 11 1/2, everything on the bottom half should be perf 12. But the 2c colours are slightly wrong, the 10c colours just don't make sense at all, and you have to stretch your imagination to turn the 3c "brick red" and "brown red" into what Unitrade calls "dull red" and "orange red". So I ran out of patience.

The laid paper mystery should be easy to solve - the two squares on the second page with the superscript "1" are the two spots for laid paper Large Queens. There's no space for the 2c laid paper LQ - no great loss, there are only two of those known in existence.

Ryan

What happens to 31, 32 and 33? Have you given up finding a home for them?

Thanks for trying Ryan.

Gilles, I haven't given up on them, but let's say their catalog value makes them a low priority for me

Kirk

HI Kirk

With the LQ, there are basically 10 different stamps, that are again divided into different stamp designs.

The SQ has 14 different stamps, again with varieties for each denmination. The 20 cents and 50 cents "Widow Weeds" were considered an 'extension' to the SQ set as a whole.

Also, the bottom half (value tablets) of the LQ and SQ differ, and, in my opinion anyway, the LQ version is fancier in scroll but in any case if you examine them carefully, you will see the difference between the 2 types.

Hope this helps.

Chimo

Bujutsu

Thanks Bujtsu for the insight and the encouragemnt.

Oddly enough, it's not the stamps that are confusing me as much as my album pages

Kirk

Sure would like to be able to fill those pages!

Smauggie
Just to clarify for me, the 1873-79 1 cent "small queen" is the exception to the rule and also has the denomination written in full, is that right? I got all excited for a minute, thinking I had the 1 cent "large" because of the wording on it!
DavidR

The large queens or heads as the British say, are actually physically larger than the small. The large half cent is also larger than the small half cent but about the same size as a small queen stamp.

Your page 2 numbers match mine with the exception of the one #34
I have that pegged as #34c
Page 2* top to bottom left to right I have
34,31,30,33,23a,29b,30c,27a,44a
Page 2**
35vii(CS),35d,36e,37e,37ii,38a,39b,40c,40ii(CS),35a,36d,37b,??,??,42,43,40

(CS) = Canada specialized catalogue #

Ryan, There are three 2 cent Large Queens on laid paper. The 3rd is my avatar.

Thanks RRogers.