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Posted 07/28/2011   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Scouter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My watermark fluid is about gone and time to order - I think there are non-fluid watermark detectors, right?. My question is do they work well and are they cost effective. I have never looked at other non-fluid options. How do other forum members check for watermarks? I actually like checking for watermarks but the fluid seems to almost evaporate in the bottle.
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Posted 07/28/2011   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ncbuckeye to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since I am just becoming active again, it has been awhile since I looked at watermarks. Years ago, we used lighter fluid. But - I think that I will hear about that from others.
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Posted 07/28/2011   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are those on the forum who advocate Ronsonol (lighter fluid). Others (me, but I don't do a large volume, so the cost isn't a biggie) prefer "Watermark Fluid" which I get from Uni-Safe, but the cost is much higher.

Some stamps you can do by either holding up to a lamp, or just putting it upside down in a black tray and looking at it with a strong lamp. Others I just can't do without a fluid to reveal them. Even then, some are hard to see. But, that may have more to do with my eyes these days .

Dave.
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Posted 07/28/2011   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 08/16/2016   12:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terry McAdams to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How do you check a MNH stamp for watermark without destroying gum?
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Posted 08/16/2016   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How do you check a MNH stamp for watermark without destroying gum?

Lighter fluid or watermark fluid will not disturb the gum on mint stamps, not even a little. There are also fluid-less methods, which work with to varying degrees.
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Posted 08/16/2016   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use lighter fuel. You can use several surfaces provided they are hard and clean - ceramic tile, metal tin, dinner plate... the lid of the wife's laptop is my favourite! It's a very cheap option and I've never yet seen any damage to a stamp.
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Posted 08/16/2016   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alub to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I've never yet seen any damage to a stamp."

US Postage Due stamps J29-50 bleed when soaked in lighter fluid.
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Posted 08/16/2016   2:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terry McAdams to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all.
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Posted 08/16/2016   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Clarity

"Clarity was developed at the request of the American Philatelic Society for an improved watermarking fluid that is safe to use for philatelic materials. Clarity combines superb optical resolution with a moderate evaporation rate in a solvent free, non-hazardous formulation"
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Posted 08/16/2016   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use the dark glass furniture coasters as watermark trays.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...ers&_sacat=0
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Posted 08/16/2016   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There are also fluid-less methods, which work with to varying degrees

In addition to safe liquid I use this: Signoscope_T1
The T1 is quick and easy to use and will detect almost everything that cannot be seen by using liquid.
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Posted 08/16/2016   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Had a stamp dealer her in the US, show me Lighter fluid, in his shop on a stamp--it works! but wow the smell!
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Posted 08/16/2016   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the smell of it, I wonder more about the health hazard of less smelling stuff like the one sold my Unitrade
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Posted 08/17/2016   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fluid is absolutely necessary to detect watermarks on US stamps, of course, but most of the world's watermarks, at least the ones most common in my collection, are easily visible without fluid. Some German watermarks from the inflation era can be so prominent they're visible even from the front.
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