New Zealand Advertisement On Back?

This stamp has an advertisement on the backside (For delicate skins use Sunlight soap). Is this common? And would appreciate catalogue number and near value.

I can tell you that your stamp is Scott Catalogue #68 and has a used valuation of $5.00.

I can only add a little about the advertisements from a note in the catalogue I was using. They were printed on stamps in 1893 and can be found on #61 to 67, 68 and 69.

I would imagine that they are quite collectable and probably catalogued in some specialized NZ books. I have found a few myself and have shown them below.

A great deal more information on these New Zealand 'adsons' here http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopi...f=13&t=22695

Hi Wadmalatz

These add seem quite common, I have a few on NZ stamps, but I have seen persons on ebay trying to sell them as rarities up to $100.00 plus. They will never sell
Horamakhet

Actually, you would be surprised what some of them can sell for. They can get quite pricey, especially when two or more specialists are competing for specific advertisements on specific stamps. There's an entire collecting focus of reconstructing sheets on the various denominations and perforations.

Wow, great informations. More questions will come (someone gave me last week a large stockbook full with Commonwealth stamps for free-and have only old french catalogues for them). And no, I don`t intend to sell it for 100 , anyway, I`m not an ebay user, in fact I prefer exchange. The bottom pane image is fantastic! Thanks everyone.
Here are some BOB stamps (the newspaper stamp can`t find at all, the yellow ones wmk: small stars, and NZ twice- Y&T catalogue: filigrane D- so probably issued bw. 1943-54)

The newspaper stamp is quite complex: it occurs with a NZ watermark, no watermark, star watermark and NZ + star watermark, and with many different perforations. It was first printed in 1873, again in 1875, and finally in 1892.

The Life Insurance 1d and Postage Due ½d are also very complex: different watermarks and a number of perforations.

Posted these in new thread but wanted to add to this one for historical educational reasons. Interesting of the full plates shown above I don't see my sunlight soap among all the others.

nitrolures,

Look in the above advert scans above from revenuecollector. In the right pane, 2nd row 4th stamp; and 4th row 2nd stamp. Both are your Sunlight ads.





All your one penny have a break in the frame opposite the "E" of "REV". This almost always means it is Die 3. In my Campbell Paterson Catalogue, there are 9 different perf/watermark possibilities, catalogue no. D2e to D2q.

Add to this, there are 3 settings for the advertisements. The "First Setting" was used only for the 1d. and 2d. values and is always recognizable by the fact that the advertisements are inverted in relation to the design of the stamp. Where the ad is sideways, the bottom of the ad lies along the left side of the stamp.
The "Second Setting" prints are upright in relation to the design of the stamp, and if sideways ad, the bottom would lie along the right side of the stamp.

If you can give info on perfs/ watermarks/ orientation of advertisement, it would help to get your ? answered.
The Camp Pat Cat. does give these stamps with advertisements there own Cat No. by adding an "A" right after the "D". Ex. Above I mentioned the Cat. no. "D2e to D2q". If an advertisement were on these stamps, it would be DA2e, DA2f etc.

Now, with the "Sunlight" advert you have, because it is in 'blue', Camp/Pat shows only two 1d stamps that had this with 3rd Die: DA2e(3) and DA2j(6). If perf is 10, it is DA2j(6) 1890 Rotary . It is the 2nd setting, meaning the advertisement is upright in relation to the stamp. It lists as $20.00 in NZ currency(but this is from my 1981 book!). If 12 x 11½ perf, DA2e(3) 1889, second setting listing at $30.00NZ used.

The 1 shilling has a couple possibilities, which range from $25-30 NZ

I was so enamored with the ads I didn't even notice one was a 1 schilling . I did perf them and all but the 1 schill is 10x10 the 1 schilling is 12x11.5 . I would have to double check the orientation of the sideways advert but all others are upright not inverted. I can only imagine how difficult it could be to complete a full pane regardless of perfs and dies.

Hi nitrolures,

The fact the 1d stamps are all perf 10 and all Die 3(break in frame), the cat. # would be D2j. Quite common unless watermark is reversed or inverted.




But with an advertisement, the cat. # is now DA2j. Now to determine which setting and which colour the advertisement was printed in.




The top left stamp looks to be a "first setting"(bottom of ad to the left of stamp). DA2j(1) or DA2j(2).

Bottom-left with blue advertisement, this must be DA2j(6).

Bottom-right, upright advertisement(second setting) would be either DA2j(3) or DA2j(4) depending on shade.

The one shilling perf 12 x 11½ depending on watermark could be D10a, D10c, or D10d





With the info in this catalogue, the only 12 x 11½ with advertisment is the DA10c(2), shade being purple for your stamp.



Remember, I am taking this from a 1981 catalogue. There could very well be some updates.

Hope this helps you out.

Regards,
Norm

Just noticed I cut off the "2nd setting in blue" price. It is the same as the green one, $80 mint and $20 used.

Now thats some good information Norm. Did not expect that these have their own catalog numbers and values . As much as it would be an intense challenge to acquire more my current desires lie elsewhere. I may auction these off in the near future with some other NZ health series.