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Posted 08/11/2011   2:14 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Nells250 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all

I have had these for a while now, and I have NO clue what they are. They don't appear in my Scott Classic catalog. The little horns in the corners look like a clue, but I still have had no luck. When I did a search for POST here on the forum, I got 69 pages of results!

Sooooo, I figure it might be faster to just post the question here.

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Posted 08/11/2011   2:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These will not be in your Scott Classic catalog because they were issued from 1945-1946.

In Scott Volume III, near the end of the German Democratic Republic listings, you will find them under East Saxony (i.e., 15N## listings).

Please note that Scott does not list all the known varieties for this set.
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Posted 08/11/2011   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Michel lists them under Allied Occupation, Soviet Zone, East Saxony as:

Mi 51 -- about 11 varieties listed
Mi 56 -- 3 varieties listed
Mi 58 -- 3 varieties listed
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Posted 08/11/2011   2:33 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
East Saxony? Wow, not very obvious, is it! Sounds like they are rather common stamps?
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Posted 08/11/2011   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps that are genuine postally used have a modest premium attached. CTOs/fakecancels are plentiful.

I recall someone mentioned that a few of the varieties listed in Michel (but not in Scott) also have a modest premium for the mint stamp, but I have never checked/verified. There are quite a few SCF members who have Michel, perhaps they can let us know.
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Posted 08/11/2011   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty common, though there are some rare variants.
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Posted 08/11/2011   2:45 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all! At least now I know they aren't from some board game!

Now, I need to try and understand just what East Saxony was! German or Russian? Looking at the catalogs, it becomes apparent that many countries have quite a past, with all sorts of take-overs, etc...
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Posted 08/11/2011   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a map showing occupied Germany, with Saxony right in the middle of the image.

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Posted 08/11/2011   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In addition to post 1945 Soviet Occupied East Saxony (Dresden), stamps were also
issued for Soviet Occupied West Saxony (Leipzig) and Province Saxony (Magdeburg)
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Posted 08/11/2011   3:58 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee, where did you find that map? I've been itching for a reference like that for some time. Any chance you could link to a website with more?
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Posted 08/11/2011   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 08/11/2011   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rileysan,

The Germany Philatelic Society published a book of maps related to German philately. I'm not sure if it's available from their website anymore.
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Posted 08/11/2011   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a map I scanned from my old Penguin ATLAS OF WORLD HISTORY
which also includes post 1945 divided Austria.

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Posted 08/11/2011   4:48 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That must have been a strange time for the Germans, having their country occupied by so many other nations, when they were used to occupying everywhere else. I see that Berlin was in the /Russia/Soviet Zone, but occupied by the US/Brits/Soviets. I wonder why France wasn't involved with Berlin?

As you can tell, they never taught us much useful history in school...
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Posted 08/11/2011   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nells the French did have their sector in Berlin.

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Posted 08/11/2011   7:06 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
AHA! I can see that now. The other maps didn't make it obvious. I think I can see now why there ended up being an east/west Berlin.
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