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Posted 09/09/2011   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have several stamps labeled Barcelona City Council (in spanish of course) that appear to be done during the Civil Waqr. I also have some Postal Tax stamps that say the same thing and are from the same period. Does anyone know about these?? Apparently Scott does not recognize them. Anyone??? Thanks as always - Jeff
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Posted 09/09/2011   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This any help Jeff?


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Posted 09/09/2011   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
those are the ones! at least some of them. the ones that are left I will post.WOW, I had just about given up looking! Thanks, Rod Will mark the ones I see and post the rest. Jeff


Rod I see where the explanation says they have been omitted, so I assume there are no more pictures. Have eight more of different design with that Barcelona writing and a couple from Valencia, but I guess they have been moved to label status???
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Edited by jhlovell - 09/09/2011 8:13 pm
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Posted 09/09/2011   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Listed in Edefil



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Posted 09/09/2011   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you begin to collect Spanish Labels
it will take you a lifetime :)
Post the Valencia and others, I like Spanish material.


This should be the complete valencia set



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Edited by rod222 - 09/09/2011 9:08 pm
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Posted 09/09/2011   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I am missing one of the Valencias. Missing several of the Barcelona issues. *sigh*
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Posted 09/09/2011   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ok will post
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Posted 09/09/2011   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what I just came across. Thanks for the interest!







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Posted 09/09/2011   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
for the Valencia I have #1 and #3 in Rod's post. Jeff
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Posted 09/10/2011   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2 and 10 are the most difficult to secure,

probably because there were only 10 million printed




but
others often seen back of book in Spain collections at auction.
Your Barcelona's are nice.

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Edited by rod222 - 09/10/2011 12:30 am
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Posted 09/10/2011   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff --

Just curious, how did you acquire these? I don't collect Spain, so I am not a competitor.
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Posted 09/10/2011   07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In 1929 an obligatory 0.05 pta tax was imposed on every postal item coming from a radius of 40 km around Barcelona (in 1931 to be extended to all the Barcelona province), "to pay for the deficit originated by the 1929 Barcelona International Fair".
This lasted until 1947, when the said deficit had been paid many times...Spanish have always been very good at taxing the others. International postage was excluded from the tax.
To pay for that, there were printed a number of stamps.
For me it's clear that they're local stamps, not labels or cinderella, as no domestic letter or telegram could circulate without them. They're easily found on letters or postcards; not so easy on telegraph forms.I know two books written on them, both in Catalan.

The same system was used from 1963 to pay for the Plan Sur de Valencia, a deviation of Turia river to prevent floodings. This tax lasted until very recent times.





I'm showing the two first Barcelona issues of 1929 and 1930.
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Posted 09/10/2011   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
JanS competitor or not, the question is reasonable. I bought a 10 volume International Postage set for just under $100. This is where all the stamps I have been posting lately have come from except for the US stuff. I am a phobic about getting a catalog number to organize my stamps so I have been going through all ten volumes. Got about a volume and half to go and then I will be selling off a bunch of thinns that just aren't me. Lots of stuff will be given and lots auctioned. Should be loads of fun. - Thanks for asking Jan - Jeff
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Edited by jhlovell - 09/10/2011 09:18 am
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Posted 09/13/2011   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Putting aside the question that, in my view, Barcelona's stamps are not cinderellas but local stamps; as without them letters could not circulate in an area of 7.700 sqkm (not so small for W. European standards!)populated in 1930 by about 2 milion people (5.5 milion today).

Perhaps the nicest Barcelona's Council issue was that on June 1936 showing some views os the Montjuďc Mountain, a mountain-park that goes into the sea very close to downtown Barcelona.





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Posted 09/17/2011   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mini-sheet issued in 1945 to commemorate the desaparition of th 5 cents tax, overprinted for Xmas. Note that the actual value was 10 pta. while the postage value was a mere 0.15 pta, going the remaining to "city councyl charities". And in a dictatorship time it's easy to figure the real goal...
To get a grasp of the amount that 10 pta meant in 1945: one way tramway std fare was 0.5 pta (today: 1.20 € = 200 pta). So, with that amount of money you could take 20 times the tram. In a post-war misery society, it was a lot of money. Issue 100 % speculative, but nice anyway. Today, we can enjoy it.


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Posted 09/30/2011   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add james to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As usual, nice posts, Cursus

You know how to make ppl get interested in such a topic


Cheers
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