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Posted 11/20/2011   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1899 Samoa (overprinted issue of the 1894 stamp)


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Australia
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Posted 11/20/2011   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Wow, bicolor Indore? (I skip right over Indore when I flip through the catalogue.)

You can tell those weren't made in the soapworks.


And George V era, too

These bungled surcharges by the Times of India Press in Bombay should restore your lack of faith in Indore, though:



And this 5 Rupee was printed in Bombay, too



Not the Diamond Soapworks, but will it do? (George VI era, I regret to say.)

No excuse to skip Indore any more, now, Cjd

Should add that I quite liked your Mexican stamps ... only why couldn't they print them in brewery or a rubbish tip, or somewhere noteworthy like that, eh?
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Posted 11/20/2011   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
AnthonyUK,

here are the missing two:



you welcome to these.




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Posted 11/20/2011   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious. Are the Hawaiian and Samoan Provisional really
definitives ?

Quote from Wikipedia


Quote:
The term (definitive) is used in contrast with a "provisional stamp", one that is issued for a temporary period until regular stamps are available,


Those Indore State ones are really good looking definitives.

Anthony, I was just about to post that BRD Technology set until I saw
yours. I'm also missing a couple of values.
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Posted 11/20/2011   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lithograving,

which ones...let me know which ones and I mail them to you.

I have ooodles and ooodles....



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Posted 11/20/2011   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fifia, thanks for the offer.

I'm missing the 160pf, 180 and 300.

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Here are some Austrian definitives which were overprinted and
turned into commemoratives.

Commemorating UN first anniversary even though Austria was not
allowed to be a member until 1956.

...............Scott 467..............................................Scott B166







Signing of the State Treaty ending the US, Russian,
British & French occupation of Austria.
Beside the colour change the original from 1945 was 2 (Reichsmarks)
and the overprint 2 (Schilling)

----------------Scott 452-------------------------------------------Scott 604





In the one below the overprinted has asterisks replacing the old value but now has an additional surcharge
of 20 groschen for avalanche victims

--------------Scott 479-------------------------------------------Scott B287


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Posted 11/20/2011   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I seem to recall that there are cases where commmemoratives
were used as definitives by way of overprinting new currency values
but I can't locate them.
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Posted 11/20/2011   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few examples from the 1870 set of Netherlands Indies, depicting King William II:

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Posted 11/20/2011   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And as a further sop to Cjd's inexplicable affection for George V's reign, the 1932 definitives of Jaipur:

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Posted 11/20/2011   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jasdan State in India only issued one stamp, on a simplified basis anyway, and it was a definitive



For the more technically minded, the 1946 1 Anna pale yellow-green, perf 8½-9, SG 4
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Posted 11/20/2011   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tony, that Jasdan State ; what postal rate did 1 Anna pay?

One stamp fits all?


I see in Scott that used is $240 vs $30 unused.

Which would indicate very few were postally used, I suppose.

Scott states they were issued in 1942 in booklets of
4 and 8 and assigns 1 number to it only whereas in your post
SG has it issued in 1946 and has 4 numbers?

Were there various reprints?
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Posted 11/20/2011   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitive series DDR air mail stamp 1957

Stylized Jet aircraft to the left (top view)





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Posted 11/20/2011   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what SG has to say about Jasdan:




versus Scott 1.

I edited out a bit to stick to fair use.

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Posted 11/20/2011   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lithograving, 1 Anna paid the local single letter rate for Jasdan. As Jasdan had a population of around 30,000, and its stamps were only valid within Jasdan, and the State Post Office opened in 1942 and closed in 1948 ... Yes, used are scarce, and covers are even tougher. I have precisely one:





(SG 3)

In fact, while Gibbons' listing is very good, the actual situation is even more complex: there were still more printings and settings than Gibbons credits. But doing Jasdan seriously isn't for the faint-hearted or impatient! The complete State mint weighs in at £2980 mint and £2950 used in the 2012 Gibbons. Even if you give up on SG 1 (£1800 mint, £1100 used), there's still a mountain to climb.

Here are examples of the sheets of four



(SG 4) and eight



(SG 5)
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