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Quebec Tercentenary Issue. Scott No. 96-101 Used Canada 1908

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Posted 06/30/2013   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I noticed how tiny it was - I was following the guidelines about photo size, but notice other posts have much larger photos...hmmmm...will try again - thank you for your response!
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Posted 06/30/2013   6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Trying again by rows. Please forgive if these aren't clear enough - I used the optimizer, but I did scan them in plastic sleeves.

(I'm trying not to over-handle at this stage, but will certainly take them out and photo both sides of individual ones if someone tells me there's potential value in one or more and more analysis is needed.)

The ones that aren't cancelled are all apparently unused and "unhinged" except for the 7-cent ones with Montcalm and Wolfe, which look like they might have had a backing.

Again, looking for whatever ID-ing anybody can help me with - catalog numbers, factors that make it one thing or another, etc.













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Posted 06/30/2013   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are the ones I think seem nicest - centered and neatly perforated, maybe (I have no idea what this is all about but these LOOK nice to me). I also have the sheets of the 1/2-penny one - starting to break apart but still apparently neat.

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Posted 06/30/2013   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok starting from the top...

M=mint, U=used, VF=very fine, F=fine, VG=very good

Row #1 of two, Montcalm and Wolfe. #100 left one appears to have some perf issues on the left side, so value is going to be cut in half probably. Looks M-VG so maybe $12.00. Right one looks U-VG, but whatever that mark is near the top/centre is kind of ugly... $12.00

Row #2 of two, Cartier and Champlain both M-VG so $7.50 each.

Row #3 of 4. King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra M-F $15.00.
The next three are from the Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee
#51 1-cent orange M-F $10.00
#52 2-cent green M-F $12.00
#52 3-cent bright rose M-F $8.00

Row #4 of 4 Prince and Princess of Wales #96. The first three look like M-F so $5.00 each. The last one looks like the corner is torn off, so maybe $2.00

Row #5 of three registration labels, these are considered back of book, so the numbers are preceded by a letter. 2-cent orange F1 U-F $3.00. The first 5-cent stamp looks like a yellow green shade, so F2b U-F $5. The second green has a few bits torn off, so F3 U-F but faulty is probably $2.00.

Last row...
5-cent beaver. There are a number of shade varieties, but looks like U-F probably around $15.
The next two are small queens and there are a ton of minor difference that can be identified that will greatly affect the value of the stamps. 1-cent (#35) yellow shade are usually around $0.50, and orange shades are $6.50 for U-F condition. The three cent is a large queen, notice the bigger size, so could be worth $5-10 even with the torn corner. The next two 6-cent stamps are small queens again, could be #39 or 43 depending on some minor differences, values could range from $8-15 for U-F condition. Finally the large queen 15-cent could be # 29 grey violet, or #20 grey. Values are about $15 for both U-F condition.

All values are estimated from the 2013 Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps. All condition grades are just my best guess based on the images. Keep in mind that you can never expect to get catalogue value for anything... even a lot of collectors are only willing to pay 25-50% of the book price unless a piece is exceptional. Hope this helps.
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Posted 06/30/2013   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much for taking the time to make that list!

One question arises from it, which I'll ask just in case it's not imposing too much...

I found what looks, to my untrained eyes, like an identical stamp to my P&PofWales 2cent - Scott #98 - on ebay for $82.50. ebay auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/vsacn1908t3...em3f1d45f74c

For this individual stamp, what makes mine so much less valuable?
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Posted 06/30/2013   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coriandre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

That stamp is overpriced and will never sell at that price. The listed value in the 2012 Unitrade is 15.00 for a fine copy (not well centered but design clear of perforation). It is never hinged so add 200% as per Unitrade. That makes it a 45$ catalogue price. It should sell for around 10$ max in my opinion.

Perfect gum without a hinge mark really makes a big price difference
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Posted 06/30/2013   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you - such helpful info - I really appreciate!
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Posted 07/01/2013   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jeninmaine, I didn't account for the never hinged (NH) premium in any of my price estimations. The NH premium for most of the stamps you pictured is 200%. So on any copy with original gum that has no blemishes and has never been hinged you add 200% of the listed value to the stamp. However, the full NH% premium should only be applied to very fine (VF) copies of the stamp. For Fine(F) copies the NH% premium will be half, for very good(VG) copies it would be 1/4.

So Coriandre's example needs a little tweaking. A #98 M-F copy lists at $15 + 100% (NH premium) would make it $30. But again, real world prices rarely reach the listed value unless an item is exceptional. So once again we are at around the $10 value range.

In my opinion the NH% premium should really only be considered on VF exceptional copies of the stamp anyway. I feel that if you are not looking for a stamp that is 100% perfect looking on the print side you are not going to demand 100% perfection on the gum side either. Realizing a full NH% premium on a F or VG grade stamp is likely not going to happen.

Personally, I collect on a limited budget, so I am not willing to pay a premium for OG-NH stamps. Given the choice between two stamps that look great on the print side, I would buy one with a gum disturbance or hinge mark because (fallowing the book) it would likely be 1/3 the price. When the stamps go in my alblum you can only see the print side anyway. Sure my collection will never be worth a fortune, but I didn't pay a fortune to acquire it either. Besides, I am in for the fun and enjoyment not the money.
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Posted 07/01/2013   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some cancellations and / or obliterations are eye-catching and marcophilatelists (cancel collectors) will pay more for them alone.
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Posted 07/01/2013   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jeninmaine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler - I wondered about that! Not regarding this set, but some others - particularly an 1864 internal revenue stamp hand-cancelled in virtually "copperplate" writing, with initials and the date 7/8/64 in clear, dark ink. That seems like something that would be worth a lot to the right person.

Therealwesty - I'm a collector at heart, just not of stamps, but now you're inspiring me to want to keep these - sigh. I have a similar feeling to yours about hinging, but with old books - not being overly tweaked about the factors that make a book more or less expensive, but rather about the book itself and its history. I understand about first editions and perfect condition, etc., but to me, the coolest things are the story IN a book and the story BEHIND a book, and one of my favorite things is a series of inscriptions - I love thinking about the people who owned it before. And one of my most highly valued is pretty much shredded, but it was a book prize my beautiful grandmother won in around 1910 in her English school - priceless. With the stamps, I agree that the front of the stamp is just as lovely regardless of whether or not a previous collector hinged it - but to me, the hinging, like an old inscription, might add "story" and thus interest.
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Posted 07/01/2013   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In 1984 there was the National Philatelic Exhibition held in Montreal from October 25 to 28th. As part of the festivities, there was a set of postcards produced each with an image of a stamp from the Quebec Tercentenary set. Unfortunately, I do not have the set but was able to find the top value stamp, the 20 cents.

Some day I hope to have the set complete on postcard format.

Chimo

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Posted 07/01/2013   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently picked up a mint copy of the 15 cent stamp from this series. It is quite attractive (and like many of the examples, with only fine centering).
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