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Posted 12/11/2011   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are some images of a few of many I have.

Knowing nothing about covers, I dont even know what to look for when it comes to covers this old.

Thanks,
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Posted 12/11/2011   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover to George Vickers, Esq., may be interesting, in that the personality was a US Senator from Maryland back in the day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Vickers
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Posted 12/11/2011   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As to the third scan of a cover addressed to Benjamin Haywood, Esq., of Pottsville, Pennsylvania, you will find this interesting reading as to an impressive biography of this individual:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...Rid=23997851
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Posted 12/11/2011   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As it relates to your last scan with the name Thomas P. Jones, dated July 5, 1844, check this link out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_P._Jones
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Posted 12/11/2011   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The second cover with the Washington City CDS shows the 18-3/4 cent rate. The rates in effect at that time was from post rates of May 1, 1825 with 150-400 miles being 18-3/4 cents.
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Posted 12/11/2011   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...the personalities are very interesting.

So, the $64 questions is, how are they valuated?

Thanks,
Jim
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Posted 12/11/2011   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just wondering: How did one pay for a fractional rate such as 18-3/4 cents back in the early 1800's? I don't recall them having fractional currency for 3/4ths of a cent and it wasn't until the early 1900's that postage stamps started coming out with 1/2 cent stamps to help pay for the classes of postage in effect during those days.

18-3/4 cents in 1825 = $3.64 cents in today's money, which was quite a sum to mail a letter under 400 miles away. In fact, comparing it to today's 44 cent (or soon to be 45 cent rate in 2012) it's case in point that we're getting quite a bargain at our postage rates today.

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Posted 12/11/2011   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The letter from Jones to Hayward is about a patent Hayward submitted to Jones' agency.

Interesting.
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Posted 12/11/2011   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt, check out Richard Frajola's exhibit
http://www.rfrajola.com/wash2006/wa...06frame1.htm
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Posted 12/12/2011   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link. Excellent information.

I never knew the connection between fractional rate postage and coinage of that day. Then, again, I never had any covers from this early in American history to have previously made that connection.
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Posted 12/12/2011   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, Russ...thank you.
Jim
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Posted 12/12/2011   11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There was a 'half cent' coin in use from the late 1700s till around 1856... and it is in fact still legal tender today, although you'd be silly to spend one.
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Posted 05/01/2014   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While doing a site search for postal currency and fractional currency I stumbled upon this old thread. How very interesting! I am currently looking at buying one that's in a local antique shop. It was a greenish 50¢ denomination depicting f 10¢ denomination (design of Scott #68 ~ A27)stamps in a line on the front.

Here is an image of one like it that I pulled from the internet as an illustration



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Posted 05/01/2014   11:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great link, Russ!
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Posted 05/02/2014   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover to William Flynt in Winston, North Carolina seems to be an example of a hand written free frank. I cannot make out the signature but likely it is some member of Congress from back then, or maybe a postmaster?
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Edited by Kimo - 05/02/2014 4:21 pm
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Posted 05/02/2014   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen some very poor examples for sale recently online, and it has sparked an interest in me. I like how they have images of stamps on them.
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