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Canada? Britain? 1897 Qv Diamond Junilee Cinderellas

 
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Posted 06/15/2012   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Puzzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Where are these from?
To me the designs look like Canada stamps, at least some of the portraits do. They are all denominated in pence so are these British? Revenues perhaps?















Stamps shared with Stamp Community courtesy of a fellow stamp collector.
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Posted 06/15/2012   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Very nice Doug, Thank you for sharing.
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Posted 06/15/2012   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those are nice Puzzler - are they engraved?
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Posted 06/15/2012   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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are they engraved?

I do not know. I do not have them here. I had just glanced at them when I did have a chance as I was more interested in something else at the time.

Have been informed by owner that they are probably Great Britain of some sort.
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Posted 06/16/2012   03:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I held an auction for a set of these recently. One of our members snapped it up for $5 [I believe].

These were originally sold on plain commemorative cards for 1/6 and the price was stated on the card. They were either stuck down or mounted. Hence MNH copies are more scarce and are worth a premium over the mounted or 'no gum' copies.
Later, the price rose to 2/6 but were only available in small quantities so cards with the higher price are scarce.
I have seen two cards and both were backstamped Wallace Bros, Wholesale and reatil stamp dealers,London,E.C.
These may have been the distributors only and I have no idea of printer. They are of poor quality on poor quality paper with poor gum but are attractive to the eye.
My feeling is that they were not the work of one of the big printers [De La rue,Harrisons etc]
They sell for anything between $15-$40. If you do a search you will find a whole range of prices. However, you will not find a set for $5.....another excellent reason to check the sales and auctions of SCF !

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Posted 06/16/2012   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Londonbus1!

The portraits struck me funny in a way and I have found many of the same portraits on Canada 1908 and Newfoundland 1897 stamps. Will post pics later for comparison.

The only one I can't nail down (the portrait) is the Queen or Duchess on the last 6d stamp.

Queen Victoria seems to be Not the portrait on Canada 1897 Jubilee stamps but very similar to one on a Doulton plate (somewhat damaged) of that time.





Hmmm, well, the angle is right but the smile is not quite there.
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Edited by Puzzler - 06/17/2012 6:56 pm
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Posted 06/16/2012   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A link to a photo on PhotoLibra (pay for photos) of the 2/6 card with stamps attached.
http://www.fotolibra.com/gallery/93...ond-jubilee/

Communication from the owner of the stamps I posted indicates the stamps are engraved.
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Posted 06/16/2012   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To search for an IMAGE on the Internet, try www.tineye.com which is free. They only have two billion images on file, so the odds are against you, but sometimes they will find the original source. Works better for postcards than for stamps. Last year, I found a card from Nepal in seconds, one on www.ebay.com/b/260/" rel="nofollow">ebay, one on Delcampe, and then knew much more about it.
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Posted 06/17/2012   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Kinf tilted but Queen flipped over (so crown matches) and tilted.

Canada 1908 #98, King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra


Newfoundland 1897 #78, King Edward ViIi as child.




Newfoundland 1897 #86 Duke of York and #84 Duchess of York


Canada 1908 #96, Princess and Prince of Wales
These last perhaps do not match up exactly.
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Posted 06/20/2012   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Afte I posted these, the fellow collector mentioned that:

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The only info I've uncovered for this time frame was Lloyd's commissioned some stamps (but yet to identify them) trying to raise $50,000 raising only $18,000 as the British Post Office refused to postally cancel them.-------not sure if these are the stamps
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Posted 06/20/2012   8:33 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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One of our members snapped it up for $5 [I believe].


I don't recall what I paid, but they are tucked away in my collection. Thank you, LB!

Brian
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Posted 07/05/2012   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CindyCan2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Britain, a few non-postage stamps were issued to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee of 1897. Wallace Brothers of Finsbury Pavement, London prepared a set of 7 stamps: 1) ½d QV in brown, 2) 1d QV in orange 3) 1½d QV in green, 4) 2d Edward VIII as child in purple, 5) 3d Edward VII & Alexandra in red, 6) 4d Edward VII & Alexandra in blue, and 7) 6d Duke & Duchess of York in grey. Because the stamps had denominations, people began using them for postage, and the company was asked to stop selling the stamps. There are shade varieties for the QV and EVIII stamps. These have been erroneously referred to as essays of the Canadian Diamond Jubilee issues. Perforated; gummed. 21 x 27 mm or 38 x 27 mm.
There is an article in BNA Topics on these stamps, if anyone is interested.
BNAT#180p145-146.
http://bnatopics.org/journals/1960/...o.%20180.pdf
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Posted 07/05/2012   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great info, thanks CindyCan!
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