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KGVI - Leeward Islands 1938, £1 Shade

 
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Posted 06/20/2012   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Puzzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Leeward Islands 1938, King George 6, One Pound stamps.



Is this listed in Stanley Gibbons as a shade produced or would there be any other reason for this? Printed with fugitive ink perhaps?
(Not mine - a fellow collector's.)

edit: just found one (maybe) on ebay listed as SG114 (second stamp perhaps) and SG114c as first stamp?
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Posted 06/21/2012   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tongman65 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Puzzler, my 1998 S.G. lists 4 different colors for this stamp-#114 is brown purple and black/red. #114a purple and black/carmine. #114b brown purple and black/salmon. #114c PERF 13 as violet and black/scarlet. I always struggle with the colors so I can't give you a definitive answer on what your friend has. Have a good one!
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Edited by Tongman - 06/21/2012 12:07 am
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Thanks!
I'll have to get him to check the perfs.
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Posted 06/21/2012   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The old (last edition - 1980) Commonwealth Five Reigns catalogue lists five shades:
- Deep purple and black/crimson-red (chalk-surfaced)
- Purple and black/deep brick red
- Purple and black/carmine-red (chalk-surfaced)
- Deep purple and black/deep carmine red
- Purple and black/salmon-red (chalk-surfaced)

My 2012 Gibbons lists the same four shades as the 1998. It also lists watermarks sideways and inverted - at £6000 each. Good luck with the watermark fluid!
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Posted 06/21/2012   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Murray Payne also list a frame doubly printed, once albino at £2500.

The only printing not on chalk-surfaced paper was the 1951/2 Perf. 13¼ x 13, of which 31,020 were printed.
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Posted 06/22/2012   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tongman65 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also this design is known for many plate flaws such as missing pearls broken scrolls and gashes in the chin area.
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The owner perfed them and he got 14 for the darker shade one and 13.5 for the lighter shade one.

I hope yo have him bring them both here for a confirmation perf measuring and watermark checking.
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Posted 06/25/2012   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is strange.
I think that shades are not different colours as listed in Gibbons.
I think that shades are variations of 1 colour.
This is being dealer territory not catalogue.

Am I erroneous?
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Posted 06/25/2012   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Varieties are a specialist area for sure. Dealers love specialists.
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I will stick by my reference to the many different colors of the KGVI Key plate issues, the above descriptions take into account the paper colors, head plate colors and frame colors. I don't believe that from 1938-51 that the printers used one batch of ink. If I'm wrong please let me know.Have a great day.
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Edited by Tongman - 06/26/2012 02:00 am
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Posted 06/30/2012   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you to all for input and help.
Owner did not want to watermark fluid check the stamps at this time.
I perfed them and I got 14 x 14 and then 13.7 x 13.5 using a Uni-safe perfect see through (similar to SG Instanta), but then the owner perfed them again and got his original measurements.

Nice to have stamps of known perfs to sit side by side to compare ideally I would think. I gave up on the shade as neither of us have a colour guide to compare or known originals. Fun while they lasted!
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