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China? I.d. Help Please

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Posted 06/27/2012   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was wondering if I could get some help with these pieces,I dont collect any aisian countries so these are beyond me ,thanks

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Posted 06/27/2012   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May we have a clearer picture please?
perhaps scan each individual as a close up.
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Posted 06/27/2012   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In case you are using the entire scanning glass as your image area, and cropping away most of that unused space -- don't. Make the scanning area about 2 x 4 inches, and your results will improve greatly.

The SMALLER the scanning area, the better. For a single stamp, I use 2 x 2 inches.
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Posted 06/27/2012   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, larger scans would help enormously.

In the meantime, they remind me of the booksellers' stamps stuck in the backs of Japanese books. No real value, although there are a few collectors of them.
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Posted 06/28/2012   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampdad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the delay ,but heres what I know on this one,It has perf 11and measures 23 mm across the face of the stamp and26mm tall.know I am calling the face of the stamp as printed border to printed border
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Posted 06/28/2012   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice scan Stampdad.
Interesting to see an Eagle? aboard,
usually China employs the Crane in its iconography.
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Posted 06/28/2012   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampdad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one here I dont know what kind of perf this is-- if it is at all the face measures 24x24 mm it is gummed and does hae remnants of an old hinge,
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Posted 06/28/2012   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those are beautiful stampdad! I'm certainly no expert in these, but my guess would be that these are private labels. There's no denomination and in the case of the second piece shown, no text. The rubber stamps, if I can call them that, look like Chinese Seal Carvings or name stamps. This leads me to believe they were for private use, perhaps on letters or as book plates (but that may be too western an idea).
I look forward to seeing the third up close and personal.
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Posted 06/28/2012   10:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampdad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last one I have is 43mm long and 27mm tallas far as perf I measured them at 3.5 mm apart the back does have gum remnants and an old hinge,Thanks for any help I recieve and Im sorry if Im NEW and SLOW.thanks again Kevin

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Posted 06/29/2012   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are book publisher seals from older Japanese books.

The first is from Kaizosha, a publisher active from around WWI to the 1960s. I can't make out any of the red seal, but it probably belonged to one of the publisher's staff.

The second has no name on it all, and only the first two characters of the seal are legible. They read 'Japan(ese)', which doesn't get us much further.

On the third, the first (right-hand) character of the name of the last publisher is also illegible: a large scan of the character might help. The rest reads '...-kura Shobo' or '[something]-kura Bookshop'. The red seal is a personal seal of someone called Matsuda. Again, that doesn't help. There are millions of Matsudas in Japan, I'm afraid.

Here is another one, from the back of a 1950s chemical dictionary:



I'm not sure when the practice of attaching these seals to books ended: probably some time around the 1960s
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Posted 06/29/2012   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampdad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope this is large enough and clear enough https://www.stampcommunity.org/uplo...ookstamp.jpg[/img]
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Posted 06/29/2012   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry: I can make out a few details of the character, but not enough to identify it. If you scan just the right-hand character (or as close to just the character as you can) at maximum resolution, it might be possible to make it out.
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Posted 07/06/2012   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brucego to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the stamps are chinese
early liberation area (chinese red post)
the stamps are not official issues
thay are BOGUS
there are many with overprints as well
if you wish to sell them let me know
i collect china stamps
bruce
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Posted 07/06/2012   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brucego, first of all welcome to SCF.

I'm sorry to have to contradict your first post here, but you're wrong. These are Japanese book seals. They turn up regularly in collections of stamps from Asia, but they're certianly not Chinese, nor are they bogus.

If you have some examples yourself, please post them here. I may be able to identify the publisher/bookshop involved.
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Posted 07/07/2012   06:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brucego to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you are right I was looking at the pic to
fast last night, and look at the wrong book
thanks for letting me know this. I guess my eyes
arnt what thay use to be
reg
bruce
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Posted 07/07/2012   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bruce, there are several of us here - myself included - who would benefit from a return visit to the optometrist
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