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Roumania (?)anti-Bolshevik Cinderellas Seeming Europa-Stamps

 
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Posted 08/02/2012   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add heinz55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




Hello,
in a small Roumania collection recently bought are contained the "stamps" shown above. The printer seems to be Fournier in Vitoria probably in Spain. To me they appear to be propaganda cinderellas produced in the 1950s using as base the Europa stamps.
In the upper row the tower of Europa is crumbling. The inscription is not clear to me. In the lower row the snake wears a lot of hammer & sickle emblems.
Please could somebody shed some more light ?
Thank you!
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Posted 08/02/2012   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Top row of stamps are fantasy stamps printed in Spain around 1956 for the Romanian government in exile. You have the complete set of 3 denominations. However, the set also exists perforated.

Bottom row of stamps, I have not seen before. Thanks for posting the pic!

k
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Posted 08/02/2012   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The inscription on the top row of stamps says something like --

Europe can't live (survive?) without the eastern countries.

That's a non-professional translation. Take it with several grains of salt.
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Posted 08/02/2012   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I did some searching on the web. The bottom row is the 1958 set.

Again, thanks for posting the pic of the 2nd set. Saw+learned something new today.

k
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Here's a link I find useful for these issues:

http://www.romaniastamps.com/rev/revcind.htm

Click on "Exile cinderellas" at the bottom of the left-hand menu.
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Posted 08/03/2012   12:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent link, Rod and Nigel! ...still rebuilding my bookmarks.

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Just some more information: the Heraclio Fournier printing works, used to be in Vitoria, not in Madrid. The city of Vitoria (Gasteiz in the Basque language) is the capital of the Basque Country (North of the Iberian Peninsula).
In the former printing works premises, there's a very interesting museum showing playing cards and (yes!) stamps. Worth a visit.
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Posted 08/06/2012   04:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heinz55 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
thank you all for the enlightening posts.
You opened a completely new line to collect Roumania for me.
By the way: If I remember correctly, other aristocracy from the Balkans also fled to Spain after WWII.
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Posted 08/06/2012   05:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Heinz, I have duplicates ( I think) of the exile cinderellas,
let us know if you collect them (Free)

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Yes, Heinz, not just Balkan aristocrats found refuge on Franco's Spain, but also many German Nazis stayed, at least for a while, as they were preparing their definitive sanctuary in South America. There're two things that are often forgotten:

1.- Franco won the war thanks to the help of the fascists regimes of Germany and Italy.

2.- Franco's regime, sided with the Axis powers up to 1943, at the war's turn to Allied countries. Remember the "Division Azul" fighting alongside Axis powers in Russia.

For this reason, paying past debts, the activity of Nazi people, sometimes disguised as just "anti communism/anti soviet activities" was blatant right up to the end of Franco's regime in 1976.
I can remember myself as adolescent (I'm 53, now) finding in bookshops and book-fairs (very common in Barcelona) many books and magazines that exalted Hitler and Mussolini regimes; there were also book stalls with actual people wearing Nazi dresses and symbols. And this was in 1973/76 (or even later)! Let's not forget!
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