Help With Stamp From Norway-Steamship Company?

I found this in the "loaner pages" from the stamp store. I found a similar stamp on ebay on a cover from 1913. There was no stamp # to go with it. I googled some of the words and I believe that it has something to do with a steamship company?? I had to return the Scott cat's to the library, so I have no way to look this up. Is there anyone who could give me more info on this stamp? I don't usually collect stamps from Norway, but this one looked interesting.

Thanks
rockinrobin

Hello Robin....

Interesting item, not sure what it is.......it's not in my 08 Scott.

I don't see it listed in Facit, either.

Not sure it's actually Norway, as their stamps are inscribe "Norge" rather than "Norske", but I'm no expert on languages.

Robin,

Interesting looking stamp. Probably a Cinderella from Norway. Googled norske + stamp which brought me to Ask Phil's "N" page but your stamp didn't match anything there. Have sent him a scan. Maybe he will provide an answer.

Thanks notrare, OttawaMike and modern, for your help. I googled some of it, and saw in askphil that there were other stamps with "Norske" on them from Norwegien ship mail. In a dictionary I found "sjomaends" to mean sailor. If it is a cinderella, why put "10 Ore" on it?? I found one similar to it on ebay on a postal card, used, and cancelled along with another stamp. Very confusing.
modern- I can't wait to see what the answer is- thanks for sending it.

rockin

Robin, I will take a wild guess at an explanation.

First, Cinderellas, especially if they are local posts, can have denominations. I believe you saw this on stamps from Rattlesnake Island. Since sjomaends means sailor, could it be a ship mail stamp of some kind that carried the mail, like a local post stamp, to shore where the accompanying stamp paid Norway's postage to its final destination?

That's my best guess.

Just got a reply from Ask Phil:




I'll stick with my guess as a ship-to-shore local post of some kind, maybe from a merchant marine company or fishing fleet, since charity seals don't have denominations but local posts do.

Robin, would you have a link or item number for that postcard you found on ebay. My curiosity is way up on this and I would like to see it.

Item No: 280268287374
The scan that is there is not very good, but you can see the stamp is similar to the one I have.
So does this mean it is a local post?

Persistance
Pays
Positively.
!!!

It seems like the AskPhil method proved good in the end.
This is what I have found out so far, but the task is still ongoing.
Research kept telling me that it was indeed a Charity label and I kept passing through a Danish Steamship Company called 'TORM'. Somewhere there is a connection I am sure but as yet I do not know what it is.
So then I came across this handy little place.

http://www.lighthousestampsociety.o...as/index.htm

As you will see, the Norwegian Seamen's Charity Seals, lots of them and nice too, except the scans are awful !
So, here we have a 10 Ore Charity Seal, possibly out of Denmark. It was probably issued for the festive season collections in 1904 but I still have no idea about the initials n.f & l.k......if indeed they are initials.
I have scoured many Charity organizations of Denmark and Norway without any luck thus far.
But it's fun, as Cinderellas often are.

Now we know, but want to know more.

Londonbus1......Charity begins at home.

Londonbus, perhaps Ask Phil is correct. But I have checked the seals referenced in your link and as best I can tell from the scans, most don't show a face value.

What documentation is there that something that shows a face value and that the webmaster has lumped in with charity seals that show no face value is in fact, a charity seal and not a local post? Nothing is provided as verification for anything shown.

What was the charity and when was the seal issued? Why is it placed on mail where a stamp would normally go and not on the lower left corner or back of the item where a seal would normally be placed?

I still have my doubts.