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Posted 10/10/2008   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Londonbus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What do you guys and Girls think of this.
Issued to commemorate Children's Day in 1991.

It is listed in SG catalogue.
But why ?

Londonbus1

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Posted 10/10/2008   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gotta teach them young, I guess. Like that song from South Pacific. I guess SG only looks to see whether or not the stamp had legitimate postal use.
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Posted 10/10/2008   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gussyboy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, I think that looks pretty shocking! But I'm sure
somewhere someone is collecting those.

Gussyboy1
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Posted 10/10/2008   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I want one! I think it is cute but with the long history of the area I find it strange to see the Israeli symbol on the window unless this is a Palestinian Authority issue stamp.
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Posted 10/11/2008   04:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a 1991 Iran Children's Day issue.
In the days of the despot Ayatollah's.
Now they have despot presidents instead.

If this is the way to teach your children on this special day then the world has a huge problem.

For a Middle aged man to say the Holocaust did not happen is one thing, but for an older [and supposedly religious] man to teach this to his own kids is deplorable.

I am sorry, but it is not human.

Londonbus1.....Most definitely human.
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Edited by Londonbus1 - 10/11/2008 04:02 am
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Posted 10/11/2008   07:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although I find the subject matter offensive, it is better to have their beliefs revealed in this way than it be hidden. There are those that feel items from the third reich (stamps, coins, etc.) should be destroyed due to what they represent. As the philosopher George Santayana said "Those who forget their history are destined to repeat it." Better to have these out in the open to remind us that these beliefs still exist.

Richard
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Posted 10/11/2008   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That explains the stamp then London. Well when they use Micky Mouse why should we not expect them to use stamps.

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Posted 10/12/2008   02:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Read the following article and then think for a minute......

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...cle/ShowFull

Let us hope and pray this child survives.
But what happens when he goes back to Iran ??
The despot President will get his cronies to interrogate him and then indoctrinate him with lies about Israel and the USA.
Should a child whose life has been saved by Israel doctors, in Israel, be forced to think this way ???

If these stamps are propaganda stamps then they should remain such.
I don't know about other catalogues, but the SG wording for this stamp is simply..'Child throwing stones at the Star of David'.

If Israel issued a stamp depicting Israel soldiers setting fire to a Holy Mosque there would be a world public outcry.
Maybe I am being naive, but I think at least the Worlds Stamp Catalogues can make a stand.

And please don't forget, I am talking about Children here.

Londonbus1....Let us pray for the sick Iranian Child in an Israel hospital.
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Posted 10/12/2008   03:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We can only hope that the parents, who obviously will not be able to make this humanitarian act public at home, will have enough gratitude to teach the child differently or at least protect him from indoctrination. And maybe have some influence among people they can trust.

As for stamps, after college I was drafted into the Army and sent to Vietnam. It wasn't long after I returned that I gave up collecting because stamps were issued by governments and all governments were repressive in some way. It was governments that created the world's problems, not the ordinary people who were by-and-large the victims of those who sought power. It wasn't until thirty years later, after my father died and I brought home his stamps, that I decided to collect again. Stamps are what they are and I don't give them any charge or view them politically. I collect what I like and even appreciate old stamps from the Soviet Union, nemesis that it was. It's history.

Will you boycott the Stanley Gibbons catalog the way I boycotted stamps?

Catalogs are a tool used by stamp collectors and it would be hard to get enough of them to stop using the SG catalogs to matter. The fault, it seems is not with Gibbons but with Iran. SG merely makes note of and records what is issued for the convenience of collectors who use their catalogs.
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Posted 10/12/2008   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A pretty deep conversation with stamps. The funny thing was that I thought at first this was an Israeli stamp. That was why I was puzzled with the window. Now I have a clear understanding though I think the stamp is cute I do not agree with the message.

However should we ban all stamps that convey the wrong message? Should we burn all the Hitler stamps or those that have anything related to the Nazi's? To tell the truth I don't see why the Allies didn't destroy all of these after the war.

Yes there are even some US stamps that I don't agree with the message that is intended by the issuing of that stamp.

I think most intelligent people would agree the message of the above stamp is wrong. Hopefully the story you posted will be one of those little things that help change the perspective of those countries that wouldn't think twice of exterminating Israel.

For me I still would like the stamp, I think it tells an important story to the world. We can not bring peace when we teach our children to hate.
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Posted 12/09/2008   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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However should we ban all stamps that convey the wrong message? Should we burn all the Hitler stamps or those that have anything related to the Nazi's? To tell the truth I don't see why the Allies didn't destroy all of these after the war.

As far as I know, large amounts of nazi-memorabilia (everything from badges to stamps) was looted by allied soldiers on both sites. The largest collections of that material are still in the US and Russia.
Nazi-related material is still very popular among collectors. You do not want to know how much is paid for original uniforms - and how many forgeries are on the market...

But returning to the original subject of this topic: I do not see why any stamp officially issued for postage should not be listed. And what would your criteria be? Mkfarm already pointed to the Hitler stamps. There is always someone offended: vegetarians do not like stamps about meat, religious people might be offended by stamps about Darwin... the list would be endless and a catalogue useless.
A catalogue lists all stamps issued, it does not judge them on moral, esthetic or other quality.
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