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Posted 08/19/2012   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Joe Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I went through a large box of old world wide stamps.

Here are a few that I am having trouble with.



Thanks for the help
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Posted 08/19/2012   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
L to R, North German Confederation (exceptionally nice 3x on piece with perfect cancels); 7500 - Russia; India - Travancore; Wurttemburg (listed before Germany in Scott); Belgium; Austria newspaper stamp; Hungary 1st issue.
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Posted 08/20/2012   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't soak the 3 on 1 piece, it's a beauty as she is.
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Posted 08/20/2012   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Hungarian one is engraved (first came the litographed stamps, then in a few month appeared the engraved ones), with Budapest/73.Nov.13/Főposta (Maine Post Office). The cancellation is common, still this is somehow early usage. This type of postmark was used from 1873, yours is from november 1873.
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Posted 08/20/2012   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joe Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wadmalatz - Looking at the Hungarian Stamp I tink it's a Scott #3 is that correct? Your statement makes me think other wise. Your comment "used from 1873" did you mean 1874?

I picked up the collection from an antique dealer who had several boxes of stamps in his place and first day covers I paid $75 dollars for evreything he had, including a 1930 Scott Stamp catalogue, an interesting find.

Thank you
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Posted 08/21/2012   12:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joe Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 3x Stamps is North German Postal Issue Scott #1
The russian is Scott #201
The India is Scott #12
The Wurttemburg is Scott #57
The Belguim is Scott #19
The Austria is Scott #463
The Hungarian is Scott #9 (engraved)
Whew I hope I did this right.
Thanks for all the help
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Posted 08/21/2012   12:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two German-area corrections, the North German Confederation are Scott #16; the first issue is rouletted, yours are perforated. Also, your stamp is Wurttemberg #60, not #57.
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Posted 08/21/2012   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joe Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Correct on the #16 to my defense I am using a Scott Catalogue from 1930 so it may be a little out dated . I'll check the latest catalogue at the library. They must have found variations.

Thank you for the corrections.
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Edited by Joe Stamps - 08/21/2012 12:33 am
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Posted 08/21/2012   07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Wadmalatz - Looking at the Hungarian Stamp I tink it's a Scott #3 is that correct? Your statement makes me think other wise. Your comment "used from 1873" did you mean 1874?

The 1871 Hungarian issue:

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The first Hungarian postal stationery to be valid only in Hungary were issued in early 1871. After several attempts the first stamp were issued on the 1 May 1871. These ones were printed using the litography method and replaced the 1867 (austrian) stamps step by step only. Howewer with the arrival of the copperplate machine it became possible to engrave stamps, which were more attractive. By the end of the summer (1871!-edit by me)the State Printing office was using this method

-Hungarian Stamp Catalogue, Introduction
Here`s the known apparition of thes issues in 1871:
Lithography: Engraved:
2 kr / June 11 / July 7
3 kr / May 29 / July 16
5 kr / May 5 (first appeared) / June 15
10kr / June 26 / July 2
15kr / June 26 / July 14
25kr / June 23 / Aug 29
So the engraved stamps appeared at post offices in the same 1871 year, starting with June 15.
The date order in hungarian language is Year/Month/Day. It seems to me, that the first number on the postmark is `73. Again: the first known engraved 5 kr was used in 15.06.1871. Used litho stamps are pretty rare, as you see, they were replaced pretty fast by engraved ones. Of course there were several (litho and copper) plates used, these were identified.
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Edited by Wadmalatz - 08/21/2012 07:22 am
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Posted 08/21/2012   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joe Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wadmalatz - Thank you for the interesting write up of the history, I picked up some very cool stamps from this lot. Still have a few more boxes to go through, should be fun as to what I find.
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